How TF to get high compensation

Toptal KnEh28
May 8 33 Comments

What’s the secret? Some of you MF’s are making enough to buy a house a year at 2-3 years in.

5 YOE
170k TC
Los Angeles

Worked at Adobe(not as prestigious, but still get calls from G)

I can’t get a offer higher than 180k from Fb/Amz/Goo. Had offers at each.

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  • Lockheed Martin gdbsk6d
    I’m 8 years at 360k TC. GRIND hard in your roles and you’ll promote quickly. Become indispensable and go where the help is most needed. (Seattle)
    May 8 7
    • New / Other
      mewtwo

      New Other

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      Nintendo
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      Trying to catch em all.
      mewtwomore
      How many times do you negotiate with HR?
      May 8
    • Disney / Eng Innocuous2
      360k TC at Lockheed?
      May 8
    • Toptal KnEh28
      OP
      Any recommendations on good reads for internal negotiations? It always is hard for me to have enough leverage to get them to give me more(without an external offer)
      May 8
    • New / R&D mylttlpony
      Yes, TC at Lockheed? There's no way, must be at A
      May 8
    • Lockheed Martin gdbsk6d
      It’s at Amazon. Sorry for confusion just not updated account yet
      May 8
  • Akamai Technologies Togusa
    If you haven’t already, I recommend reading “Ten Rules for Negotiating a Job Offer” by Haseeb Qureshi.
    May 8 1
    • Intel VANDERPUMP
      His articles on comp and negotiation are all A++ must read
      May 9
  • Nvidia ECTT56
    Find a niche and excel. Security is in high demand everywhere and some prodsec and infosec engineer positions have excellent TC for seasoned vets and crazy career growth for this interested in becoming proficient and productive in the field.
    May 8 0
  • Lyft / Eng
    Indecysive

    Lyft Eng

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    Airbnb, Google, LinkedIn
    Indecysivemore
    Recruiters will tell you that going to a new company won't increase your comp by much, but from experience this is just not true. If you are a good employee, enjoying your team, enjoying your current place, you won't leave unless the TC is noticably higher at another place. If they want you, they'll have to pay a premium for poaching you over to them.

    My advice, do a good job at your current place and make yourself irreplaceable, simultaneously, interview on the side and get offers. Now you're in the position of power to not accept unless they can convince you with more comp.

    That being said, TC isn't the end all. If you're happy where you are, not overworked or underpaid, try enjoying life outside of work. When you are compensated more, you are naturally expected to produce more. You can come in at a high level with high comp, but underperform, which can be stressful. God forbid you get let go, and all of a sudden you are desperate for a job, and now you'll probably accept the first low-ball offer you get, putting your TC right back down.
    May 8 0
  • Facebook
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    Facebook

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    alt_qqmore
    Need competing offers

    Also easier to get crazy offers in the Bay Area, offers for LA are lower

    Alternatively take that lower offer at FB and get promoted fast, then let your refreshers catch you up
    May 8 5
    • Toptal KnEh28
      OP
      What should be a low offer for someone like me?
      May 8
    • Facebook
      alt_qq

      Facebook

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      alt_qqmore
      I'm just saying you said you had 180k offers at FB/G/Amzn, take the FB one and then a promotion will inflate that TC quickly
      May 8
    • Toptal KnEh28
      OP
      Gotcha. Yeah, that might be the right route. Just seems like I have no idea how some of these people are making the money they are
      May 8
    • Facebook
      alt_qq

      Facebook

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      alt_qqmore
      Honestly it's a combo of them getting competing offers and also stock appreciation
      May 8
    • Intel VANDERPUMP
      + location is big factor .. highest % of high TC is bay area.. some Seattle.. small % elsewhere
      May 9
  • New / Other
    mewtwo

    New Other

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    Trying to catch em all.
    mewtwomore
    Yeah what is the secret? Need more yoe?
    May 8 3
    • Oracle / Eng iblv
      Less years of yoe will lead to more TC based on current state of industry interviewing.
      May 8
    • Toptal KnEh28
      OP
      What do you mean?
      May 8
    • Workday / Eng
      skerpp

      Workday Eng

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      skerppmore
      @iblv funny you say that, is that why Oracle the dinosaur pays ass
      May 8
  • Condé Nast 0110011001110101
    that's odd. i'm at 1.5 yoe and i just got 185k from amazon. i had a very set target i was going for and i let go of every offer until that target was met. eventually i landed at amazon which went higher than my target.

    my target is lower bc i'm a college dropout and i'm lucky to even have a job really.
    May 9 0
  • Cisco vqgr40
    I think competing offers is the trick. You can essentially have multiple companies in a bidding war for you.

    Also, 170k for 5 YOE is still above industry average IMO. It’s tough seeing all this stuff on blind but we all are own our own path.
    May 8 0
  • Microsoft / Eng
    tarasenko

    Microsoft Eng

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    tarasenkomore
    Did you not have competing offers??????
    May 9 2
    • Toptal KnEh28
      OP
      I did on each - they were unwilling to budge when I attempted to negotiate. Quite different than anything I have read here on blind
      May 9
    • Microsoft / Eng
      tarasenko

      Microsoft Eng

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      Microsoft, Grab
      tarasenkomore
      Damn, I hope you are an aberration and not the new trend! That sucks!!
      May 9
  • New / Other
    mewtwo

    New Other

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    Nintendo
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    Trying to catch em all.
    mewtwomore
    OP, are you a developer or what? Or a product designer?
    May 8 2
    • Toptal KnEh28
      OP
      SWE/Data Engineer. Do both + ML
      May 8
    • Toptal KnEh28
      OP
      Currently a Sr SWE
      May 8
  • Facebook whodattt
    Pfft you think a 500k bay area com will get you a house in 2-3 yrs? Think again
    May 8 1
    • Nvidia ECTT56
      Seattle, before it becomes Vancouver (but is still a real city with real talent and not nothing but a bubble)
      May 8
  • Google Gewgler12
    Get in the door and earn that TC at one of those companies. Higher earning potential than at Adobe from what you're saying your experience has been
    May 8 0