How do you react when a promo decision has been turned down?

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Assuming you cannot switch internally or externally for a few months (as I am waiting for H1B visa ), what can be done during this time? I was promised of the promo carrot for quite a while and now I am feeling dejected. Any suggestions from experienced devs on how you would tackle this?

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  • Amazon acker
    What was the reason?

    You should have gotten very specific feedback, "you missed on delivery X, we were expecting Y, and we would like to see you do Y on this next Z project, then we will be able to promote".

    If you're not getting something that specific then the miss wasn't on you, it was on them, and you should GTFO.
    Jul 13 6
    • Amazon acker
      I manage about 50 software engineers via five managers. If one of my managers denies a promotion and doesn't give a specific reason why and what the engineer missed doing and needs to do in order to get promoted, then that manager is going to very personally help me meet my unregretted attrition target.
      Jul 13
    • GrubHub grubster
      Hahah get less blind to the reality of what’s going on, then, and L8 will become a possibility. Love your enthusiasm, though.
      Jul 13
    • Amazon acker
      At Amazon promotions are not dependent on a budget like that. Budgets are managed at the VP level, not the team level. If you operate at the required level we will promote you.

      Promotion increases budget by 0.2 of a person so if we get lucky and promote a bunch of people and cause a budget problem at the VP level (hundreds or thousands of people) we'll just reduce headcount by one, which will inevitably mean just closing some an open req or just not backfilling the next person who resigns. Usually that just gets lost in the noise of people joining and leaving. We understand it to be a statistical process.

      Budget factors never impact individual career progress. Not at Amazon.
      Jul 13
    • GrubHub grubster
      Ahahaha tell your VP that you want to exchange 1 head for 5 promotions and see what he says ahahahahah.

      Please, please, don’t make the children believe in Santa. Promotions have a little bit to do with merit, and a lot to do with relationships. Trying to make it seem that it’s all “fair” and that “there is no budget/curve” is actively hurting the junior community here.
      Jul 13
    • Amazon acker
      I don't need my VP's permission to promote, I have final authority.
      Jul 13
  • Microsoft gone!
    Dont react, it wont help. Look at the long term picture. Keep building your skills. However, deep dive and understand why you didn't get promo, is it your manager or you didn't demonstrate next level work, be honest to yourself.
    Jul 13 0
  • New / Eng diablo1128
    Just move on and do the best that I can at my job and stop thinking about it. It's already in the past and there is nothing you can do to change the decision. So there is no reason to dwell on it.
    Jul 13 0
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    • Adobe
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      Eventually yes! Not an option rn
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  • Bloomberg FlightRisk
    There is no way I would feel valued after that, so I’d leave ASAP. If I can’t leave quickly, I’d change orgs and then leave ASAP.
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      Exactly, is it fair to show that to your manager? Can I ask to be compensated in some way — like a cost of living raise or spot bonus?
      Jul 14

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