How flexible is Zillow in terms of relocation?

Oracle YUcb24
May 29 37 Comments

I have received an offer today from Zillow. The team I interviewed is in Seattle. I don’t know if the team exists in SF or not. How flexible is Zillow if I want to work from SF office?

I have also received an offer from Microsoft Seattle - Azure Data and Intelligence group (TC: 155k, Level 60)

Which offer do you suggest is better? I’m bit confused because Microsoft is definitely a good company to have on resume.

TC from Zillow: Still waiting for numbers and details from recruiter. Just got congratulations email.

PS: Currently working as Software Engineer at Oracle with TC of 155k in Redwood City, Bay Area.

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    mikedell

    Dell Mgmt

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     mikedellmore
    They should give you a free house
    May 29 1
    • Oracle YUcb24
      OP
      I don’t mind getting a free house in Bay Area. 👍🏻
      May 29
  • Zillow Group / Eng UTQw64
    I only know from what I've seen but I dont think they are that open to working remotely from other offices on initial offer. Most teams dont have cross office situations, although this is sorta changing I think. That said once working here for a while they are very open to relocation and internal mobility in general. I myself have not experienced it though, just seen it. Also as a note your TC from Zillow will likely be less than Microsoft at least as far as I know but I still think it's worth the diff.
    May 29 13
    • Oracle YUcb24
      OP
      Yeah I’ve been established in Bay Area for past couple of months. I’m just worried what would be the situation at Zillow if I don’t get H1B.
      May 29
    • Zillow Group kpzg
      Ask Zillow for premium processing fast and wait for it's approval. It's only matter of 10 days after filing
      May 30
    • Oracle YUcb24
      OP
      I still haven’t received H1B. I have two more tries. Say if my luck is so bad that I don’t get it, then MSFT will move to Canada. What will Zillow do?
      May 30
    • Yahoo MPNs55
      Wondering what did you end up picking ? MSFT or Zillow ? If Zillow what was the compensation if you don’t mind sharing.
      Jun 25
    • Oracle techlord12
      Neither. About to accept Amazon. OP here.
      Jun 26
  • F5 Networks / Eng <-
    Um, why would you ever move to MSFT at the same TC?
    May 29 6
    • Oracle YUcb24
      OP
      I don’t think they’re open to negotiations. Also how are the annual performance bonus or stock options at Microsoft?
      May 29
    • F5 Networks / Eng <-
      10% saving in Taxes is not worth a career move, IMO.
      May 29
    • Oracle YUcb24
      OP
      I’m currently working at Oracle. Problem is with the products and team at Oracle. Between Oracle California and MS Seattle, what is better? MS sure as hell may open more opportunities right?
      May 29
    • F5 Networks / Eng <-
      Well, what opportunities are you talking about? Getting into FAANG?

      If yes, Oracle can do that. Zillow can do that. MS can do that.

      As an experienced engineer, you'd need to be more concerned about the type of projects what you work on, and, your interests than about "brand value".
      May 29
    • Oracle YUcb24
      OP
      That is true. The only problem I am facing is the work culture at Oracle. Managers pretend to be superior without being supportive. Heck my manager didn’t know how H1B application works. He is fixated on his opinions and the projects aren’t that good.
      May 29
  • F5 Networks / Eng <-
    It might be reasonable to ask Zillow if they've any open reqs for SF office and get team matched there? The recruiters are usually willing to do this if it's possible.

    But I would not take either of the offers, if the new TC <= current TC.
    May 29 5
    • Oracle YUcb24
      OP
      What if Zillow’s offer is better than Microsoft’s? Do you suggest Zillow over MS considering MS is highly branded?
      May 29
    • F5 Networks / Eng <-
      Yes, MS has better brand. But, I'd think carefully about the team, role and TC.

      You're already at Oracle. You've a brand.

      Take a leap of faith and pick the role which actually helps you level up. (Better work, better TC)
      May 29
    • Oracle YUcb24
      OP
      Isn’t MS better brand than Oracle?
      May 29
    • F5 Networks / Eng <-
      Don't run behind brand, my friend. Look for quality of work/projects.

      Your current role should open up opportunities what you want.

      MS might be a bigger brand than Oracle. That doesn't mean MS is a better choice.

      McDonald's is a bigger brand than Oracle. Does that mean, McDonald's is a better choice than Oracle?
      May 29
    • Oracle YUcb24
      OP
      The problem is with all that’s happening at Oracle about layoffs and not being innovative, I feel like shifting to other companies would be a safe option. Plus the current manager at Oracle is not supportive. Is getting an opportunity difficult if I move to Seattle?
      May 29
  • New / Eng plasmodium
    You can work for seattle team for 6 months then request move to sf team
    May 29 5
    • Oracle YUcb24
      OP
      I don’t know if they have a team in Seattle.
      May 29
    • New / Eng plasmabeam
      Zillow acquires trulia which is in sf, they formed Zillow group. They even have office and teams in New York
      May 29
    • Oracle YUcb24
      OP
      How are you sure that internal transfer is easy at Zillow within 6 months or say 10 months if I may ask?
      May 29
    • New / Eng plasmabeam
      I’m working at Zillow group in Irvine location, some of my coworkers worked in seattle office
      May 31
    • Oracle YUcb24
      OP
      Also what would Zillow do if I don’t get my H1B since they don’t have offices outside US? Would they let go off employee? That means there is no job security for international students right?
      May 31
  • Zillow Group HCDG34
    I left Microsoft to join Zillow; l I liked Zillow's culture a lot more. Also Zillow uses AWS and nice open source tech, and you get a macbook pro for work. At Microsoft I was stuck using a crappy Surface laptop and working in Windows. I suspect that Zillow will pay better than Microsoft level 60. What did you end up doing?
    Oct 30 0
  • Nvidia bit-coin
    They'll actually buy you a house.
    May 29 0

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