How is AWS team? How does Amazon level ranking works?

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Mar 20, 2018 31 Comments

Hello Amazonians,

Can you please shade some light on AWS team, culture, etc..? Also can you also tell me how does leveling works at Amazon?

Thanks

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  • Amazon / Design M67gq98
    AWS is many, many different teams and the experience varies widely. Seriously, open the management console and each individual service in there is (often) a discrete group, and there are often teams within teams. Within teams. What specifically were you looking at?

    Levels.fyi is...mostly accurate, if you’re trying to line up with Google.
    Mar 20, 2018 3
    • Amazon / Eng
      CorrectBat

      Amazon Eng

      PRE
      Oracle
      CorrectBatmore
      Pay is out of date though. L4 pay is 11k higher now with more stock.
      Mar 20, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng Levels
      ^Updated
      Mar 21, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng
      CorrectBat

      Amazon Eng

      PRE
      Oracle
      CorrectBatmore
      Oh now it’s more than I’m making rip
      Mar 23, 2018
  • Amazon / Other Ogon52
    If you are already in an OK spot in Amazon you should avoid AWS as much as possible. Upper management is terrible and it trickles down. Some directors and managers are able to shield their teams from it but in general AWS is what generates 80% of the Amazon horror stories about terrible culture and work schedules.
    Mar 20, 2018 15
    • Amazon / Product awspm
      Completely disagree with Ogon 52 - culture at AWS varies by team. Most teams have a great culture and are well managed. Some new service teams might work way harder to manage their delivery timeline but you can find out before hand based on what team you’re interviewing at.
      Mar 20, 2018
    • Amazon FengShuei
      Been at AWS, been at Retail. Ogon52 is right, AWS with its crazy ops is truly traumatic. Prepare to be called on weekends for ops issues, even when you are not on call.
      Mar 21, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng
      Hooliganss

      Amazon Eng

      BIO
      AWS
      Hooliganssmore
      I’m in EC2, and it’s absolutely fantastic
      Mar 21, 2018
    • Google Doogle
      OP
      What are the sub teams that are. Part of ops at Amazon?
      Mar 21, 2018
    • Amazon Vdtjcs
      Everyone does ops at amazon. It’s embedded in the culture and heavily related to our leadership principles (ownership, bias for action, customer obsession).

      There are specific roles though whos primary job is ops such as systems engineers and support engineers. System development engineer is kind of related too as in they’re the ones building services and tools that reduce ops pain.
      Mar 21, 2018
  • New szhyZ9
    How many hours on average do people work per week? Is there some flexibility to time when you start working such as at 10am?
    Mar 20, 2018 3
    • Amazon eebado
      40 hours. And yes.
      Mar 20, 2018
    • Amazon vzoom
      Really depends on team. I personally don't think AWS is like a strict place. However, there are a lot of things that have to be done and are on the line, and because of this fast paced environment, you have to get work done obviously. But you can get work done at a schedule that works for you. Only thing is sometimes being on-call can take up a lot of your team, but if your team manages it well it will only be once in a while.
      Mar 20, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng
      Hooliganss

      Amazon Eng

      BIO
      AWS
      Hooliganssmore
      However many is required. I’m averaging 30
      Mar 21, 2018
  • Amazon / Eng 5’6”Indian
    It depends heavily on the role and team. If you’re an engineer, expect to join an on-call rotation if the service you’re working on is already in production. As you’d imagine, a lot of AWS teams are Ops-heavy

    If you’re on a greenfield project that isn’t released yet, it will be a lot less Ops

    How many years of experience do you have ?
    Mar 20, 2018 1
    • Google Doogle
      OP
      Thanks this helps. I have about 15 years experience and looking for ops role. I know AWS is at very stage and does not have systems and tools in place.
      Mar 20, 2018
  • Amazon / Eng psybaba
    The fact that you think AWS would be a team makes me concerned. Do you really know nothing about AWS? 🤨
    Mar 21, 2018 0
  • Amazon / Design M67gq98
    Okay, what are the bad AWS teams people are referring to? What I’ve seen across the teams I know, people are respectful, authority is challenged, the leadership welcomes being challenged, and the work is difficult but mostly interesting. It can also be frustratingly bureaucratic but what big company doesn’t suffer from that at times. I’d never go back to anything retail.
    Mar 21, 2018 0
  • Amazon Chzqilaga
    Depends on your team. What is your expertise? There are so many stuff under AWS... I personally like the DB team and storage team most, cutting edge stuff, very smart people. Others I have not have too much experience with.
    Mar 21, 2018 0
  • Amazon Ben Dover
    AWS is massive, and by massive I means they have their own HW team designing their own servers, SoC, firmware, Bios, networking switch, SSD, and then a whole software dev and manufacturing operation under it. Imagine it is like the navy and it has its own fighter jet under it, in addition to just the air force flying jets.

    They have ops, even some greenfield teams also have on calls (for the main team, to prep them for the roll out).

    My understanding is most of them are OK, because they do not hire leetcode monkeys with 3 yoe into SDE2, but rather hire veterans from industries with proven records, and compare to places like Lab126 or retail, you are respected more and will be able to jump into other FANG much easier. It is like the comparison of being in the Marine vs Army.
    May 22, 2018 0
  • Microsoft Do galas
    You can go there and learn with your own tears.
    Apr 11, 2018 0