How is compensation in Tokyo and other offices for US companies

New noocaar
Feb 16 30 Comments

I'm collecting info for potential expatriation for places like Tokyo, Zurich, and London.

According to friends of friends:
- Zurich is the highest paid office, with new grads getting a base of 130k
- Google Tokyo pays its L4s a base of 120k

Some people allege that Indeed Tokyo TC starts at 150k, which is hard to believe cause it implies they're on par with Google?

Any other companies that I should know about with competitive comp? (3 yoe)

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TOP 30 Comments
  • Works Applications / Eng reject
    Indeed Tokyo starts at 90k
    Are reason for relocation?
    Are you Indian?
    Feb 16 14
    • IBM uhYq11
      Also, Tokyo is like music in the 50s. Seoul is more individualistic like Elvis. Stand in Tokyo for 20 minutes in any business district, almost everyone is dressed the same. Korea (esp Seoul) seems far more tolerant of individuality. At least in fashion 😬
      Feb 17
    • IBM uhYq11
      Tokyo is like an instant pot. I’m sure Singapore sucks temperature wise, but the Japanese have the collective sense of self sacrifice that makes them enjoy the suffering. The opposite of the UAE where they take pride in being able to cool any establishment to 62 F while its 118F outside.
      Feb 17
    • Works Applications / Eng reject
      @ibm how long have you stayed in Tokyo?
      Seems like you've had a few negative experiences
      Feb 17
    • IBM uhYq11
      It’s not negative, I actually offered to move my family there for the biz. The Japanese are almost uniformly the most honest (in social or non business interactions) and awesome people you’ll ever find. I love them. I love Japan. I lived there for a couple of years in the 80s and have spent a couple of weeks there each year for the past four years. I’m just cautioning you that there’s a bit of a dark side which may or may not bother you. You may not even notice some of it (the depressingly monotonous dress and work culture) until you go elsewhere in Asia (Seoul for instance) and see “salaryman” that wear a blue suit instead of the Japanese uniform. I’d move there in a second, but you have to be senior enough to put ground rules in place or you’ll get ground into dust like the Japanese tend to.

      You know what stands out in this picture?

      https://cdn.japantimes.2xx.jp/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/b-bonus-a-20161223-870x580.jpg

      The five people that aren’t dressed like the other 2,000 in frame.
      Feb 19
    • Amazon / Other ファック ユー
      Indeed Tokyo starts at around 90-110K for L1 which is equivalent of L3 at Google. For L2 at Indeed its around 130-160K, which is around L4 at Google. So they're roughly at par.
      Feb 20
  • Expedia / Eng hnAy18
    Indeed pays 10M-20M JPY per annum based on the experience level. Do note that income tax is quite high there. AFAIK Indeed is the only company paying that much. Amazon pays a lot less (approx 10M for SDE 2)
    Feb 18 2
    • New noocaar
      OP
      Thanks for the tip. I've got 3yoe and a TC of almost 200k. What would those places likely offer?
      Feb 18
    • Expedia / Eng hnAy18
      They won't care about your USA TC. They will instantly lowball you with the lie saying that CoL in Tokyo is cheaper. Laugh and ask them how much do they pay for a kilo of cherries, or 1000sqft apartment.
      Indeed would probably offer you 13M JPY, others would be less likely less than that.
      Feb 18
  • Indeed ssjshshs
    new grad for gg tokyo is no more than indeed
    Feb 16 0
  • Intel modi lalit
    If you are Indian London may be the best place to go to. You may regret going to Tokyo, particularly if you are married.

    Those places are very different from Bay Area
    Feb 16 0
  • New lPlq848
    Actually the indeed number could be true, I heard similar rumor from multiple sources and given that companies like Mercari also pay in that ballpark it could be true. Google could be more conservative
    Feb 16 2
    • New noocaar
      OP
      Where can I find info on Mercari? Glassdoor and Paysa datapoints are non-existent.
      Feb 16
    • New lPlq848
      This is “insider” info.
      Feb 16
  • New / Eng
    sde4life

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    sde4lifemore
    Don’t consider indeed lol
    Feb 16 2
    • New lPlq848
      Curious why not. Is this specific advise for indeed Tokyo
      Feb 16
    • Indeed engHead
      Why not?
      Apr 19
  • New lPlq848
    If you apply to Google Tokyo does the hiring process go trough the US? Or do you interview only with local engineers
    Feb 16 1
    • Works Applications / Eng reject
      Mostly Tokyo, but it is random at times
      Feb 16
  • Apple Icml2017
    Snap in London pays quite well; base is similar to US base salary but RSUs are lower. Can confirm this as I got an offer. But what Snap offers is very much on the higher side and the numbers will be lower in other US companies based in London.
    Mar 5 0
  • Google / Eng statusz
    Of the 3 places you mentioned, only Google Zurich is worth considering, the other two pay much lower.

    Maybe some hedge funds in London could come close, but I hear things aren't looking good with Brexit, many financial companies considering closing shops.
    Feb 16 0