Im starting at amazon soon as a new grad. Already interned there. Ive heard horror stories of people being let go by first getting pip’ed. Any tips on how i can avoid being pip’ed? And is this something i really need to worry about? I’m really hoping for job security by working here. And please dont say leave before getting pipped as a response.
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- Symantec Snoop DawgAccept the fact - u r disposable. Now get back to work & ship my box
- You guys are horrible. I’m just trying to get advice from you as I begin my career. All I’m getting is a bunch of put downs.
- Amazon max9charsDon't expect help. Don't expect nice. Don't expect fair. Thicken your skin. However, ask for help (shows you are interested, and some of us WILL help you, genuinely), be nice (some of us WILL be nice to you), be fair (some of us WILL be fair to you), and don't be a bully inspite of your thick skin. Of course, work hard. You'll be fine.Jun 19, 2018 3
- Just do your work, and you won’t have to worry about it. 99% of the people that get PIP’d literally do nothing, and don’t participate in team shit (meetings, on calls, ops, etc). Just do the assigned work and deliver and you’re golden.
- Because Amazon hires fast and fired fast. The company is so talent thirsty that they hire anyone that can complete a leetcode medium problem or two. This means a lot of trash gets through in addition to solid talent.
OP stated they breezed through their internship, so they should be fine.
- You should know if you are trending to be placed on a PIP and for most (not all) who say they didn’t know, there is a reason they are being Performance managed. Get a mentor early to help you navigate the culture and to bounce ideas and scenarios off of. I love the fact that we have a high hiring bar and even higher standards for our employees. It’s not a cake walk, but that’s okay with me.
- Doesn't matter what others think. Will "others" come trying to save your job when you get fired? Also us you think Amazon doesn't have a high bar, it means you do not have great skills or meet any high bar either.
This seems like your first gig. Enjoy your time at AMZN. Learn and grow. Stop giving a damn about what others think.Jun 18, 2018 1
- At the volume and growth we experience, yes, there are some poor hires, duh. The high bar once you are in, helps weed those out. Some people are just not a cultural fit. That’s okay... it’s not for everyone. You said you wanted help. I’m not a recruiter. I like Amazon and my team. Sorry that I am actually positive instead of all the complaining that goes on on here.
- Dell ea497acFirst rule of PIP club... if you're worried about a PIP you're either a) already on one or b) about to be. On the first day of Xmas my manager gave to me... a PIP and a LOC.
- Amazon uUBN24The process has changed. You don’t get pip right away and manager has to give you option and even choice to get a outside team arbitration. Bottom line, if you work harder than others and you have good leadership principles like bias for action, diving deep etc then you will be fine.
- Amazon ntvo77Work hard and strive to demonstrate the LPs and you will do great! You are just starting out and sounds like you had a successful internship so you have already gotten a taste of Amazon’s culture.
Not everyone fits at Amazon. You need to be very self sufficient and adaptable as things move very fast. Despite what you might hear, talent and hard work wins the day here and it is very rare for someone good to be PIP’ed. Good luck!
- Focus on earning trust and delivering results your first few months. Ask for help if you need it. You only get to be the new guy once. People want you to succeed. Also read First 90 Days if you can. Easy read that gets you thinking about how to hit the ground in new role. Oh and don’t worry about PIPs and such...just do your job well and try to have fun.
- As somebody who was considered (and reviewed as, and compensated as) a high performer right up until they decided I needed to go, I realized in hindsight that I should have taken advantage of more opportunities to move around. I was approached by other teams with some great opportunities, but I made the decision to maintain loyalty to my group. Then there were some management changes, and new folks (peers of mine, mostly) came in and cleaned house, elbowing out people they didn't gel with. My manager was - I shit you not - in tears when he told me he needed to put me on a pip, and he never took responsibility - told me straight out that he was instructed by his management to push me out. There's absolutely nothing ok with the way this practice is done at AMZN, but it seems to be ingrained in the culture. The reason to pick AMZN is to get in, do some amazing stuff (they spend a ridiculous amount on R&D for crazy bets that never see the light of day), and try to stick out that 4 years for a big vesting. Don't spend a penny of the stock, and then go do something more fun and less stressful.