How to get PMM / PM Exec (Dir, Sr. Dir +) role after working at little known companies for the past six years?

Jul 27, 2017 11 Comments

Despite getting executive-level (VP, CEO) referrals with companies like Salesforce, VMware, ON24, Splunk and countless others, I either don't get an interview or they ultimately pass.

In some cases, the positions I applied for have been open for 5+ months and the hiring managers have publicly went on social media (FB, LI, TW) desperately looking for candidates to fill.their openings, yet behind closed doors they complain that they can't find anyone decent.

I ask for feedback and am told that they really liked me / my background but they would rather wait to hire from their competitors or would rather start the process again.

Losing faith very quickly. Thoughts?

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  • Verathon / Ops
    crabmaster

    Verathon Ops

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    💅 Seattle
    crabmastermore
    if your past companies are little known, you will have to take a title decrease at a bigger company.
    Jul 28, 2017 5
    • OP
      i am talking about the last one or 2. i worked at well known companies otherwise
      Jul 28, 2017
    • Verathon / Ops
      crabmaster

      Verathon Ops

      BIO
      💅 Seattle
      crabmastermore
      in what capacity? individual contributor?
      Jul 28, 2017
    • OP
      mostly individual contributor, but a couple staff management positions. It is getting confusing - one company rejected me because they saw I had that but automatically assumed i would need a team. That company has the worst reviews on Glassdoor - it's amusing
      Jul 29, 2017
    • Verathon / Ops
      crabmaster

      Verathon Ops

      BIO
      💅 Seattle
      crabmastermore
      you should probably have a customized resume to fit the job you want and tell a cohesive and clear story.
      Jul 29, 2017
    • OP
      i have a have a customized resume and a very clear story.

      one comment that I constantly hear is that I don't have "domain expertise" which is laughable because the hiring managers don't have it either or I do, but the companies would rather hire millennials from FB, GOOG, etc who know less than me but have those companies on their resumes.
      Jul 29, 2017
  • Ridecell CrocDundee
    tbh, you don't seem very confident at first glance. part of a director role imo is acting like you got this, even if you're stretching the truth a little.
    Jul 27, 2017 2
    • OP
      Not true. I have gone in confidently. any other suggestions?
      Jul 27, 2017
    • Ridecell CrocDundee
      I'm just making an observation. maybe you just thought you were, maybe you were, but everyone can always improve their confidence level. Maybe you should focus on how to quickly build rapport instead, as that makes or breaks if people have confidence in you as a person
      Jul 27, 2017
  • Dice warhell
    What's your work exp and edu background?
    Jul 28, 2017 1
    • OP
      BSC from local school and tons of UC extension classes. Am 46 - might be too late for MBA or graduate degree.

      25 years overall. 20 years in marketing, mostly product marketing with one head of marketing role and a few positions at two snall companies that have zero name recognition. Currently doing freelance for a rapidly growing BI company, but there are no FT positions that match what I am looking for.

      Really don't want to have another "manager" title, but might be forced to do take one if things don't improve.
      Jul 28, 2017

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