How to hire more women engineers

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Feb 13, 2018 30 Comments

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  • Microsoft / Eng why though
    Recruiting 100% women engineers seems sexist.

    Though you found a loophole to do it legally it's hardly ethical. I hope to never seek out specific candidates based on gender or race but rather seek out new recruiting tactics that will improve diversity naturally without cherry picking by race and gender.

    What was done in my opinion was sexist, discriminatory recruiting. If I had hoped to work there I'd consider taking legal action.
    Feb 13, 2018 3
    • Snapchat 8uIWZy
      I totally see where you're coming from. But if not that, what other solutions do we have? If Silicon Valley is naturally diverse, then tactics like this won't be needed. Though Gusto makes a controversial decision, in this specific case, I think the mean justifies the end.
      Feb 13, 2018
    • SAP HPV
      @8ulWZy, so sexism is justified of it's convenient for you? In what was is this not sexism? By definition, it is.
      Feb 13, 2018
    • Microsoft / Eng why though
      Slave owners also thought the end justifies the means. Reality is that racism/sexism is never OK no matter your view point.

      Here are several ideas that they may be using and should be using: recruit at the Grace Hopper convention, recruiting at schools with more diversity, helping people change careers (maybe former k-12 teachers which are predominantly female), encourage women and URM's on campus to consider CS.

      There are a million good things you can do before accepting that you "have to be sexist" to hit a goal.
      Feb 13, 2018
  • Intel ifpu54
    I can't understand why anyone cares about diversity. Last time I checked, race or gender wasn't supposed to matter and so long as people are fair to each other and choose freely what they want to do, who cares what the outcomes are.
    Feb 13, 2018 1
    • SAP HPV
      How else are English and Psychology majors going to get lucrative jobs they're not qualified for?
      Feb 13, 2018
  • Oath bNho61
    > While Gusto has made progress, its engineering team has no Latinos and no African-Americans.

    Ouch.
    Feb 13, 2018 2
    • Microsoft / Eng why though
      Yeah, they spent 6 months hiring only women. Next I guess they will only hire African Americans and finally after that only hire Latinos. Such a backwards approach. Literally cherry picking by race instead of simply improving recruiting strategies.
      Feb 13, 2018
    • Uber undead
      Typical. Most tech companies think diversity is only about women.
      Feb 20
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    • LinkedIn KSML04
      Dope dope
      Feb 13, 2018
    • Microsoft thTO47
      They are telling that a ninja or rock star cannot possibly be a woman. Sexism is the essence of pretty much the entire initiative.
      Feb 13, 2018
  • Apple / Eng
    love apple

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    It should not men and woman , hire right pple . No one should be given quota
    Feb 13, 2018 0
  • Blue Origin / Eng login81
    Stop the madness please!!! Can we promote hiring the best individuals regardless of background and respecting individuals regardless of background.

    Having a discussion with your boss about not being respected because of your background is very important and should be done. Having a discussion with your boss about hiring more people with a similar background should get you thrown out. That kind of discussion is racism or sexism under the guise of diversity.
    Feb 13, 2018 0
  • Undisclosed anonymous+
    You know only 12% of CS majors are women, right? If more that 12% of your engineering team are women, you maybe hiring based on affirmative action, than skills
    Feb 13, 2018 4
    • Pinterest CarrotCake
      Article says 18%
      Feb 14, 2018
    • Undisclosed anonymous+
      I discounted for women getting into these programs due to affirmative action, as opposed to merit
      Feb 14, 2018
    • Pinterest CarrotCake
      You're an idiot
      Feb 14, 2018
    • Blippar anonymous+
      Heh. What a logical rebuttal.
      Feb 17, 2018
  • Snapchat ravens
    Lower you bar. When you accept female candidates without coding background or CS degree, you could hire a lot.
    Feb 13, 2018 2
    • New LKCV04
      gross.
      Feb 13, 2018
    • Microsoft damnnd
      Get a life man
      Feb 13, 2018
  • Airbnb EmmaThelma
    All things equal, it is a mathematical certainty that when you consider fewer candidates out of the total candidate pool you must lower the bar. If you say that not recruiting women lowers the hiring bar everyone applauds. If you say that not recruiting men lowers the hiring bar people boo. Both statements are true. All logic and decency gets thrown out the window when diversity becomes the topic for an article. Please stop publishing this type of nonsense!
    Feb 13, 2018 1
    • Blue Origin / Eng login81
      Love the logic!
      Feb 13, 2018
  • Undisclosed OmniBuz
    This is complete bullshit and borderline illegal. But it's happening everywhere, the eventual losers are the companies themselves. When you hire for anything but merit, your product and business suffers.
    Feb 15, 2018 1
    • New fubarr
      Shouldn't there be laws to prevent any kind of favoritism at work based on sex, race or any other BS. Google and anyone else who set quotas for women are going to suffer. Quota system never works and gets abused a lot. The average quality of the talent will go down. Let the best female engineers kick male guys ass in the interview.

      I know female engineers at Google who aren't that great engineers. And I also know a kickass ex Google female engineer/hacker who hates this women in engineering bullshit and doesn't identify herself as a woman engineer but an engineer. Keep engineering workforce hiring unbiased.

      #Rant
      Feb 23, 2018
  • Tableau / Eng
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    This is clearly an example of work from very passionate, but not very smart people. This approach is sexist, immoral and counter productive.
    Feb 14, 2018 0
  • Workday / Other TheonG
    This entire chat thread shows why Silicon Valley gets deserves its sexist label
    May 17, 2018 0
  • Cisco / Eng
    truthdr007

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    Hire with a tagline only for women ;)
    Feb 13, 2018 0
  • Apple / Eng
    love 🍎

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    Why gender bias , hire base on candidate performance. Why you specifically to men or woman , bad for company and innovation
    May 5, 2018 0
  • Gusto Gusto
    Lol OP, were you expecting a positive response?
    May 2, 2018 0