Who in IAF thought it was sensible to send that 1970's MiG anywhere near Pakistani air defence? India has modern, up to date Sukhoi's (from 2002) that are meant to be the front line fighter and the role for that 1970's era MiG is really only at best second line defence. It should only operate deep inside Indian territory where it can be supported by and coordinate with friendly ground based radar and air defence. Putting that MiG forward and letting it face modern air defence systems was a terrible blunder. 1970's MiG vs modern air defence is not a contest, the outcome is very certain. Only the Su's should be forward deployed like that, they are in fact purpose built for that role whereas the MiG had no chance. Major error in planning by IAF. When the rah rah "he's my hero" jingoism dies down Indians should ask some serious questions about how it is that IAF command is so inept as to allow that ancient plane anywhere near the Pakistan border when IAF do have much more modern aircraft that are purpose built for that role. This really wasn't bad luck on the battlefield. This was ineptitude at the highest levels in IAF. Pakistani pilots seem to have baited him into flying into the range of an anti air missile system. This speaks to great planning and excellent flying on the Pakistani side versus inept planning and poor flying on the Indian side. Indians should ask why.
Remember the moment you ask the question, you will be labelled as antinational, Pro Pakistan etc. That's what we have come down to.
I still don’t understand what India achieved after all this melodrama. The killers of 40 cprf jawans are still not punished. Pakistan still didn’t handover the terrorists like Masoor, Hafeez to India. Despite of all this, Indians were celebrating like a World Cup victory.
People like you wont accept it. Though to answer your question, India avenged the killings of 40 CRPF soldiers by destroying the biggest terror training camps of JeM which has been provided safe heaven by Pakistan govt. An overwhelming number of terrorist were killed in that operation.
India has attached a larger price tag to conducting terrorism in India now. Terror organizations can now expect a strike on their logistics and people, and will consider this in their cost in carrying out new attacks. Feel free to PM me if u have questions. I have crayons and can draw a diagram for u
My feelings exactly. What the fuck are those Su30MKIs for?
Only two people got benefitted the most out of this - Modi and Imran Khan. Modi gained his popularity back successfully distracting people from the issues like jobs, economy. Since Pak too retaliated and captured Indian pilot. Imran Khan gained more popularity, then he talked about peace and gave the pilot back. Emerged as more matured leader. People from the both countries got fooled by the war mongers and media.
Do you think there is any way that a party in power not benefit by fighting back?
Well in that case he deserves that benefit. I can't think of an alternate leader who would have responded to such terror attack, as agressively.
I've been following this. 1. India has limited Sukhois. Why? They buy them. Don't manufacture themselves. About 300 so Sukhois are owned by India. It wasn't a war situation. 2. Those Mig21 Bisons are recently upgraded. So although, 3rd gen they can somewhat compete with F16s. 3. In a dogfight, it's more about the skills of the pilot. Look at what happened during a 2005 training exercise between India and Russia. 4. India didn't know those were F16s, until after 2 days or so.
This wasn't a dogfight. The MiG was shot down by ground based air defence it had absolutely no way to counter. The only involvement Pakistani fighters had was to bait the MiG into following them into the range of the surface to air missile system, which IAF command obviously should have known would have been deployed in the area. That's a planning error.
I thought a F16 was shot down too. Wasn't it? Chasing each other away, is dogfight.
Indian here, this whole thing was bad PR for India's military capability. We we're in bubble about our Superioty over Pak, at least that has got a reality check. True that Modi showed intent but the military capability of india fell quiet short of meeting the expectation. Plus once and for all it's settled that Indian Media has zero credibility.
Indian media is a STD ridden whore.
Not an Indian, but gotta hand it to IAF. 1. They penetrated 60kms without pak realizing. India had good intentions and only targeted camp sites. They could've done too much damage. 60kms is serious. 2. Pak had F16s and India used Mig21 bison and actually shot one down. That's serious skill. 3. It's more about world politics and Pak got a creampie on it's face. Utter disappointment. World supported India.
Is there proof of destroying the terror site or destroying an F16
No clinching evidence for terror site Partial evidence on F16, need more evidence
There's no need for evidence now. International community backed India. POTUS pressurized Pak to release the prisoner. China didn't back Pak. France openly backed India. India destroyed a F16 and the camps. They got what they wanted. India doesn't usually participate in pissing competition. They're over the moon as far as I can tell. Plus, their GDP is killing it. Economy is strong. Good for US business. And guess what? Modi got a second term. Only one who looked like a fool was Imran Khan (on international stage). 😂😂
I also think we should not say Indian attack, rather we should call it Modi attack who is doing it to win elections.
Dude he has the best winning chance with or without this kind of stuff. Also, are you saying the Indian govt blew our soldiers up so they could win an election? If not, Modi is just responding strongly, just like in 2016
You’re so naive. Go watch movie Wag the Dog. You believe in media propaganda so much. I think Modi is playing holi with his soldiers and losing war rhetoric