IS&T at Apple

Autodesk / Eng EyAl81
Jun 16, 2018 46 Comments

I’ve been reading nothing but bad things about the IS&T culture at Apple. With that in mind - is it worth the name on the resume for a year or two? How hard is it to get out is the org into better parts of the company. I spent the last few years in a similar org at Autodesk and I don’t know if it’s worth the fight mentally again.

Pros and cons from people with direct experience? Coming in as a data architect.

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  • Apple vwBW63
    Do not touch IS&T with a 10 foot pole, if you’re an engineer.
    Jun 16, 2018 3
    • Google / Eng DeepBrain
      This. Transfers are horribly bad too. You have to tell your manager before applying for transfers and the team interviews you as if you were an external candidate. Puts you in a really tough spot if the team decides not to hire you.
      Jun 16, 2018
    • New / Eng gt7788
      I got an offer from IS&T (Hyderabad) the team is responsible for B2B sales channel, I have other offers from Flipkart and Swiggy. What should i do given that there are so many negative reviews. Also can i switch team and move to maps or iCloud
      Jan 4
    • Apple ihate🍎
      Bruh, the only teams hiring in Hyderabad are the absolute worst who couldn’t get the req open in US. Even the top-brass knows those teams are not worth spending money on.
      Nov 12
  • Cognizant HeloWrld1
    It’s crappy. It is seriously one of the most f’ed up culture I ever worked in. Infosys asses became FTEs and screwed up everything in Apple. We used to call them pigs
    Jun 16, 2018 1
  • Uber Sigmoidd
    IS&T stands for IT services - support for internal tools and services at Apple. Stay away 10 miles from this org. 90% of the people managers here are incompetent and most of them are there to retire.
    Jun 16, 2018 0
  • Apple / Eng
    Rijdi837sj

    Apple Eng

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    Google, Netflix
    Rijdi837sjmore
    It depends. Think about it. All IT backbone stuff are there. For example all Apple data center management and CDN etc are there. Similar problems and challenges with Netflix and other cloud provider such as Google cloud MS Azure etc. Lots of fun problems and pays handsome. There are shit teams i that org but it is same for all orgs. My point is that depends on your team. It is obvious but ppl just make claims based on online reviews.
    Jun 16, 2018 2
    • Amazon / Eng
      Clafiry

      Amazon Eng

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      Clafirymore
      Thanks. This goes anywhere really even in none IT orgs. It all depends on your team to be honest. Your manager may suck and make working in a specific org horrible etc
      Jun 16, 2018
    • Autodesk / Eng EyAl81
      OP
      Fair point. Before I started asking around and just had my interview the job sounded interesting. Good problems. The manager and I got a long. It just wasn’t as in-depth of an interview as I expected. So I was hesitant and started looking around and found all these reviews.
      Jun 17, 2018
  • Apple Postm
    Worst org in Apple
    Jun 16, 2018 9
    • Amazon / Eng
      Clafiry

      Amazon Eng

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      Clafirymore
      What’s spg
      Jun 16, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng IL2 2/F
      Special project group?
      Jun 16, 2018
    • Apple pupkin
      Yeh, basically r&d
      Jun 16, 2018
    • New / Eng gt7788
      I got an offer from IS&T (Hyderabad) the team is responsible for B2B sales channel, I have other offers from Flipkart and Swiggy. What should i do given that there are so many negative reviews. Also can i switch team and move to maps or iCloud
      Jan 4
    • Amazon / Eng Ben Dover
      It is a matter of expectations vs what they offer. Go for it if you want but always compare each position and it's alternative.
      Jan 4
  • Oracle / Eng
    Identify

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    Identifymore
    I was in IS&T for 4 years. Stay away. Consulting company converted managers. Insecure and political.
    Jul 6, 2018 7
    • Autodesk / Eng EyAl81
      OP
      Identify it’s not letting me send one. Feel free to send me one if u want
      Jul 6, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng
      Fobby

      Amazon Eng

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      Google, Amazon, Facebook
      Fobbymore
      If it’s that bad why stay 4 years?
      Jul 6, 2018
    • Autodesk / Eng EyAl81
      OP
      It isn’t bad. But Apple would be one step up if it was a different org
      Jul 6, 2018
    • Oracle / Eng
      Identify

      Oracle Eng

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      Identifymore
      Stocks vest period 4 years. And my options were at 110$ pre split. And it did help in Catapulting my career.
      Jul 7, 2018
    • Apple xDy651
      The minute you read IS&T run, run fast. You’re better off making a career and learning something at mediocre nameless company than this shitty org.
      Jan 10
  • Amazon / Eng TCYOE-GTFO
    What does IS&T stand for?
    Jun 16, 2018 1
    • Amazon / Eng IL2 2/F
      It is the IT department
      Jun 16, 2018
  • Apple vYG7yh#
    Think of IS&T as herpes. It’s a life choice.
    Jun 17, 2018 1
    • Apple ihate🍎
      LMFAO. Herpes is the perfect way to describe IS&T
      Nov 12
  • Amazon / Eng
    Clafiry

    Amazon Eng

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    Google
    Clafirymore
    Someone please clarify what is bad about the org? Is it only bad for engineering? All we hear is that it’s bad but never what’s bad about the org?
    Jun 16, 2018 1
    • Apple ek1214
      Top down. A lot of politics. Not systematic. Compensation-wise and working environment-wise, worse than other orgs in Apple.
      Jun 16, 2018
  • New / Eng hashcode12
    Hi I have got an offer from IS&T given that i need to study for mba is it a good option to join apple brand and not concentrate on work at all
    Jan 10 5
    • Apple xDy651
      This is the best joke I read so far. 😂 Apple is not known for supporting or reimbursing their employees education. We have a max cap at $4k per year. And Goodluck keeping up with your workload and finishing coursework if you join IS&T
      Jan 10
    • New / Eng hashcode12
      Money is not a problem for me i just need time and brand recognition
      Jan 11
    • Apple ihate🍎
      lol. Apple has brand recognition for engineering? Literally no one gives a fuck you’ve been an engineer at Apple. Everyone in valley knows Apple engineering quality is mediocre at best.
      Nov 12
    • Apple
      fyjf464ghj

      Apple

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      Google, Netflix
      fyjf464ghjmore
      👆after you left Apple. Our quality get improved
      Nov 12
    • Apple ihate🍎
      Lol. Nice comeback. Where did we recruit you from, high school?
      Nov 12
  • Apple TheB
    This thread is a year+ older now. Just chiming in to say it's not as bad as some suggest. I think it mostly relates to your function and your team (management).
    Nov 11 1
    • Apple ihate🍎
      It’s every bit as bad as the others say. Fuck IS&T and mediocrity of this shithole.
      Nov 12
  • Apple ihate🍎
    Apple IS&T is like a graveyard for all incompetent, mediocre and shitheads. And Apple doesn’t make lateral moves any easier, moving from IS&T to non-IS&T roles is extremely hard. So, save yourself the stress and suffering. Stay away from IS&T.
    Nov 12 0
  • Autodesk / Eng EyAl81
    OP
    Thanks for all the feedback. Bummer. But at least I know now before I jumped in and found out.
    Jun 16, 2018 0
  • Oracle / Eng
    Identify

    Oracle Eng

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    Identifymore
    Not letting me either. I want to find out something about Autodesk. You need to change the messaging option in your profile I think. Click the + symbol next to my name.
    Jul 6, 2018 1
    • Autodesk / Eng EyAl81
      OP
      Jul 6, 2018

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