If FNG is Tier 1, which are close to Tier 1 companies for SWE?
FNG seems to be a tier 1 company as per a lot of blind posts here. What are other companies that are close to tier 1 in your opinion?
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- Uber, square, Dropbox, slack, LinkedIn, Twitter. Others are great but don't have the same engineering quality and culture on an average throughout the company.
- @google, how did you compare the engineering talent of oci and dropbox, please explain. One talent is solving a tiny problem of a Simple Object Storage and the other talent is solving networks, infrastructures, vms etc.
How did you establish that engineering skills is higher at dropbox than oci?
I am not debating tc, culture and politics and other stuff.
- @Tableau, he was talking about the culture. Without giving who I am away but I guess it would, I went from OCI to Dropbox. At OCI my team had to solve really big problems dealing with complex networks and millions of dollars in spending and things were constantly on fire and managers were not easy to work with. So many unproductive meetings and bureaucracy and no sense of team work and people not being able to make decisions because they had to escalate. I’m much happier at Dropbox where coworkers are super helpful. People actually have a sense of ownership and don’t go “not my problem” or fake tell you they will fix something and never follow up again. The culture is much more vibrant or what we call “cupcake”. I think the abundance of free food helps.6d2
- Uber uber>lyftFANG or FAANG as amazon likes to put it are not all tier 1 companies. They just happened to have insane stock growth over 2012-2017 period and made a cool acronym that Jim Cramer coined. Apple and Amazon particularly have an extremely low bar and low engineering quality compared to G, fb and Netflix. Most engineers at amazon are not actual engineers but instead oncall support for their broken systems that the company isn't talented enough to know how to fix. Most engineers at G are rest and vesters. The work (this is just going off what people I know say) moves at a snail's pace and everyone is fine like that, most don't leave because of the food. Both FB and Netflix hire and fire for the fun of it. Both are very cultist companies and not the type of environment any sane person should work in long term. Politics runs amok in all FANG companies. These are all companies that have been around since late 90s or early 2000s and have done well not because they are innovative but because they happened to get lucky and be first. These companies are dinosaurs akin to IBM, oracle, HP, and Cisco that they replaced. Some of The startups you listed are the real tier 1 places. Have extremely high hiring bar and are innovating and fighting for user base daily.