Had on-site with Amazon. Did well in coding and design part. I don't think I performed well in Leadership principles testing. The interviews were for SDE 2. Are leadership principles really important for L5? Is rejection possible solely based on answers to Leadership principles?
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- Google / Eng AbfxsSadly those bs LPs are more important than being good developer. Thats why, most of the developers tend to leave in 2-3 years. Take it as a good signal, and try else where, its not worth going to amazon.
- Amazon / Other SeattleSleIf you receive shares you do get the benefit of rising stock value. And what lies? I work at Amazon and although it’s not perfect (then again what work is perfect??) I have ton of positive things to say so instead of preaching based on your negative experiences let others decide for themselves.
- Personally I don’t like Amazon as an employee but I actually like Amazon’s interview process and its focus on leadership principles. This is miles better than every single company fooled into thinking leetcode type questions can evaluate senior engineers. Leetcode is like college entrance exam in developing countries where they examine the students in this way because the education infrastructure has not matured. Leadership principles will at least set the expectation for future employees thereby letting some of non leetcode experts to be able to join. Also the interview bar is lower in general. Ridiculously high bar on leetcode style doesn’t have good effect on filtering false positives. It will hire more of people who had less important work (more free time) or fired or studied only instead of working. I have seen who gets into G and FB and I can tell you it is far from job performance (almost inversely correlated in my opinion). This might be why Amazon is doing great despite much easier interview.
- Amazon doing great as an e-commerce company does not equal Amazon doing great as an IT giant.
Somebody been great at what you call “leetcode” doesn’t mean what you think it means. It’s not that hard to become good at it if you are:
b) can get shit done.
Both of which are kind of important on the job, don’t you think?
LP interview questions’ answers, on the other hand, are unverifiable bull shit.
When I’m listening to to a sleek talker on the other side of the table I can’t help but wonder if he’s appropriating somebody else’s work, if he actually finished that project or just say he did.
When it’s somebody tongue-tight, I really question myself if the guy actually have the relevant experience and just unable to give me examples I need for one reason or the other.
- That is a fair argument but if someone can articulate the problems he faced and relate to the principles I would think that demonstrates communication and intelligence to some degree. Japanese hired people based on school credential and behavioral interview yet they did quite well without asking a single programming question. They are behind US nowadays but were quite good back in the days.