Is my Total Compensation too low?

PayPal / Eng poke.mon
Mar 2 57 Comments

Software Engineer 3 in Bay Area
YOE in USA - 3.5
Masters from US.
Prior YOE outside USA: 4 (reputed Product Company)
2018 W2 had 180k+ as wages.
Base 130k (effective April 2019)
Expected Total compensation to be 200k for 2019, provided PayPal stock doesn't crash.
Is my total compensation too low with over 7 years of experience in Software industry?
Thinking about switching.

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TOP 57 Comments
  • Microsoft what is up
    Man. This app genuinely fked up everyone's happiness.
    Mar 2 14
    • Tableau HWbs04
      What's the point of not doing anything. How will you build your skill set and experience. Sad. Work life balance is important but not wanting to work is a different topic.
      Mar 3
    • Amazon 6l
      What is TC at Tableau?
      Mar 3
    • Microsoft M💰FT
      Most social media apps tend to do that. They all promote different forms of keeping up with the Joneses but multiply the amount of exposure you have to “better lives” by 500x
      Mar 3
    • Workday cnmb
      I’m making 350k doing pretty much nothing in workday, a company famous for low TC, with 4.5 yrs out of college. Mostly because the company stock did really well. I don’t think there’s much the company can do or don’t do in terms of TC. I’m sure that’s many folks here got such a high TC.
      Mar 3
    • Oracle getLit
      I agree that Blind messes up a lot of people's "happiness" at work. I was introduced to this earlier this year and motivated/encouraged me to be switching to an opportunity that would be TC 30%+.

      Positive competition is always welcomed in this world, but I fear that the recruiting gods will also get more competitive in the future with these new data points and do ing the negative effects.

      Or maybe not, TC or GTFO
      Mar 4
  • Google masteratbs
    YOE outside USA doesn’t count
    Mar 2 2
    • PayPal / Eng poke.mon
      OP
      Why not? I did good work outside USA too.
      Mar 2
    • Google masteratbs
      Because amuricans view any experience in other countries as worthless
      Mar 2
  • Accenture bOsk66
    Wait I don't get why you have to make a post about this, if you feel that you can do better, just go interview outside.
    Mar 3 1
    • PayPal / Eng jamba.juic
      To know what to expect as initial offer and don't get fooled again?
      Mar 6
  • Ellie Mae SxmE80
    You are seriously underpaid. You should at least be making 275 with those many years of experience. I really feel bad for you...
    Mar 3 0
  • PayPal longlines
    PayPal pays for performance. If you're performing, you will be getting a boatload of stock refreshers and promotions. Sounds like you are getting paid what PayPal values you.

    With stock refreshers there are plenty of PayPalers that make more than FANG. There are also plenty that don't come close. It's all about performance and impact.
    Mar 3 3
    • Flagged by the community.

    • Palo Alto Networks ftyrio
      I want to add that it is not totally true. This post would make you feel bad about your performance. Other factors include office politics, the fact that your h1b, your manager perception of you, etc. I would say that don’t accept the crap that performance is the reason for low pay UNLESS you know it is. I have seen my share of people working hard but not being appreciated. I have seen people who do not much and make a bundle. Yes it is not fair. It only becomes fair if you accept it.
      Mar 3
    • PayPal / Eng v3nm0
      I tend to agree. I have worked on project with mostly high visibility and worked smarter, harder and always got ATB since I joined.

      I have decent stock options but first year was peanuts. Second year I got promoted and the refresher was okay. Third year, no promotion but avg stock comp I'd say. But also lower than what I read on blind.

      All in all, even with good, visible work, it depends on your time and the politics that go around at higher levels. Up to your chain of command to push for you and create a balance amongst the people downstream.
      Mar 7
  • Apple / HR SnVL04
    Well, according to levels FYI there’s no SE 3 at PayPal. But if it’s like anywhere else, it is an alright TC for that level.
    Mar 3 4
    • PayPal / Eng poke.mon
      OP
      I work at PayPal, so I am very sure of my designation.
      Mar 3
    • PayPal 4uqalj
      There is SE3 is it nothing but T24 as per levels
      Mar 3
    • PayPal / Eng v3nm0
      Love that confidence from Apple. 😂
      Mar 7
    • New / Eng
      gxVP12

      New Eng

      PRE
      PayPal, Hitachi
      gxVP12more
      SnVL04, STOP TALKING!!!
      Mar 22
  • Microsoft nimby
    Can you get another offer with more pay? If yes, then you are underpaid, if no, then you are not.
    Mar 3 2
    • PayPal / Eng jamba.juic
      Interview with companies, crack the interviews, get offers, to check whether one is underpaid? So efficient!
      Mar 6
    • Microsoft shared_ptr
      That’s why recruiters ask you how much you make. In theory, you tell them what you want and they will acknowledge if they can beat it or not before interviewing. Theoretically they can pay you a lot but you can bomb the interview... who’s fault would that be at that point?
      Mar 6
  • Microsoft wfgyre
    Low in Bay Area, okayish in Seattle/NYC, good for other locations.
    Mar 2 2
    • PayPal / Eng poke.mon
      OP
      This is for bay area
      Mar 2
    • Facebook mjAj60
      Not good in Seattle given his/her years of experience
      Mar 3
  • PayPal kittyhello
    PayPal SE3/T24 here
    YOE - 4

    Base 135k
    TC is around 160k, with bonuses and refreshers

    +1 to the comment about Blind messing with our happiness
    Mar 3 0
  • PayPal cygni
    Just promoted to SE3, making 220K this year.
    2018 w2 shows 200K.

    I have 5+ YOE mostly in US.

    You are undervalued. Easiest way to fix leetcode and interview.
    Mar 7 4
  • Google ovBk62
    YOE doesn't directly imply that you deserve ridiculous salaries. PayPal isn't a high paying company. Try to move to one of the FAANG et al
    Mar 3 4
    • PayPal wknu08
      Paypal pays far better than Google in terms of base and RSU's. The good thing about Google is that it has very good perks.
      Mar 3
    • Google ovBk62
      Citation needed
      Mar 3
    • PayPal / Eng jamba.juic
      @wknu08 what are you smokin bruh?
      Mar 6
    • PayPal wknu08
      Yes that's true. Google has good name in market and hence have a lot of perks, but in terms of base and RSU'S u can get better pay for the effort u put.

      That said, u don't get much of discounts and free food in PayPal
      Mar 7
  • Magic Leap ——-
    New grads are paid more than you are. You are paid very very low amount. Aim for 350 or 400k.
    Mar 3 1
  • PayPal f1re
    Factor h1b into TC
    Mar 3 1
    • Oracle getLit
      I grew up in a world where h1b's are only making around 35-55k. (around 2010) They're all very happy as the potential green card may be in the pipeline.

      What happened? 9 years worth of inflation can't be over 100%, right?
      Mar 4
  • 130k base is low but PP stock has been on a tear last couple of years. However it will most likely correct this year. It is still a great brand to have in your resume , which can payoff in the future.
    Mar 5 0
  • Amazon iHoH47
    If this helps: I make 2k more than that and I work for FANG in Bay area with 3.5 YOE in US.
    I wonder if I am under paid or lots of people inflating their pay here
    Mar 5 0
  • TrueCar mfRC45
    you do have 8 years of experience, do not think that you are just a 3.5 YOE candidate just because you did not work in US during all your career. So, push for more RSUs and on base as well. I think you should ask for a 150K plus range base and companies are usually a bit more generous with RSUs so ask for more RSUs as well
    Mar 3 0
  • PayPal aKyf75
    It's very high. People are too spoiled nowadays. Want to get richer sooner.
    Mar 3 0
  • PayPal wknu08
    Your pay for SE3 level is fair and good. Only that I would ask for a promotion in role
    Mar 3 0
  • eBay paxt
    average salary for PayPal but low compared to FANG
    Mar 3 0