Is taking a lower job title career suicide?

Mar 28 34 Comments

I'm currently a Sr. Data analyst and I received an offer from a company I really like for more money and similar responsibilities. The only thing is - the role is a business intelligence developer and not senior anything.

If I took this role would it hold me back? What are the potential (reasonable) cons?

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  • Facebook / Other Odknisjke
    My point is - is have never seen a manager leave Facebook for anything other than a Senior Director or VP elsewhere. We just lost an M2 engineer who went on to be an SVP at workday, so eh
    Mar 29 17
    • Oracle alwzangry
      You probably haven't met those who came from acquisitions that had as high a bar for promotions as any FANG. Do you know how many leading companies were acquired by Oracle since 2005/6? Some leaders from those companies can match up with any of the top leaders in any company. Maybe you haven't met them.

      Also good for you that you've got vetted by Facebook and so recruiters call you for VP jobs, but that's also because you were recently Sr Director at Oracle. Why are they trying to offer you a higher title if titles don't matter? And if you wait 2-3 more years, in your M2/M3 position, that could change, but maybe it won't. They always go by your current/recent grade-level.

      Hey, I'm not stopping anyone from jumping to other companies with grade-level changes. But titles matter, even if for humble-brag like yours.
      Mar 30
    • Credit Karma ttttaijrn
      alwzangry your logic doesn’t follow. He stated while at Oracle he didn’t get many job requests, and now at FB with lower title he gets a lot of requests.

      This is a pretty clean AB test. Facebook made the difference, not his title at Oracle.
      Mar 30
    • Facebook / Other Odknisjke
      Yep - example : Uber wouldn’t consider me for Director or even interview me back then, and now that I am Facebook they are sending me Diredctor level jobs every week
      Mar 30
    • Magic Leap Leaper17
      alwzangry - Sure, if you were part of the leadership team that was acquired by a larger company, and your career has grown within the company, then that would be seen favorably in the market. It wouldn’t be your title per se that would be interesting, it would be all of your previous experience + your current experience. But if it has been 5 years at the larger company, then your evaluation would be what you have done at the larger company / most recently.
      Mar 30
    • Oracle alwzangry
      Why have any titles at all then? You guys are using circular reasoning. Have a nice rest of the weekend.
      Mar 30
  • What you do >> title
    Mar 28 0
  • Intel
    freshmonky

    Intel

    PRE
    Intel, Apple
    freshmonkymore
    What’s the point if a title if you’re pay is lower the other roles?? Take it
    Mar 28 0
  • Facebook / Other Odknisjke
    I am a manager at FB. Many of my peers at smaller companies are VP now. I make more in TC than most of them, and get routinely contacted for Director and VP roles. Don’t let titles fool you
    Mar 29 1
    • Oracle alwzangry
      This is exactly why titles are important. It confuses people into thinking that all VPs at other companies deserve tactical line manager roles at the hot companies. See my previous comment.
      Mar 29
  • OP
    Thanks for the responses everyone. This is pretty helpful actually.
    Mar 29 3
    • Facebook netgar
      Good luck man! Wishing you career growth no matter what you decide (and remember you can always try one thing and change your mind!).
      Mar 29
    • OP
      Good point. I have a lot of good ops though right now. FB, evernote, etc. Hopefully it all pans out
      Mar 29
    • Facebook netgar
      Sounds like you’re in a win/win and sounds like you have enough experience that even if you make a choice that you’re not feeling you can always bounce back. So it will work out. :)
      Mar 29
  • eBay 🍎x🍏
    At you current company you may be director with a couple of years of experience. There is no point thinking twice if you are getting a better opportunity and more 💵 . Title doesn’t matter much if you have the right skills
    Mar 28 0
  • Oracle alwzangry
    Yes if you do it well past the beginning of your career. Past a certain stage, people would pre-judge you by your title: "so many yoe, and you're still blah".

    Edit: You cannot be taken seriously if you claim to do CxO level job with Peon as your title. You're told to ignore titles by hiring managers or recruiters at in-demand employers. It's not always as simple as they make it sound.
    Mar 29 0
  • Intel / Eng DonaldDD's
    You could always exclusively negotiate on title and keep the same pay & responsibility?
    Mar 29 0
  • Facebook netgar
    No. Avoid sweeping generalizations. Titles don’t mean *that* much; people trump the up all the time and a “Senior” role at one company isn’t always the same as another. What experiences are you fostering? That’s what’s important. Plus you already have the title on your resume. Take the money if it’s all the same.
    Mar 29 0
  • Tree.com vDYq17
    Depends on your yoe. Usually under 3 years, the title doesn't matter, go for higher TC as long as you like the team and role. Beyond 3 years, you don't want to switch to a role with lower responsibility/title
    Mar 28 0
  • Dropbox / Eng drl
    Titles don’t matter, the most important thing is being able to bring value to the company.
    Mar 29 0
  • New / Ops
    tooQ10

    New Ops

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    Rakuten USA
    tooQ10more
    Do titles mean anything? My company doesn't even have them for non-management. And if you suddenly get assigned to a new department, what happens to your title? Do you have to negotiate for a new one?
    Mar 29 0
  • Magic Leap Leaper17
    It depends on the company you are from and go to. ie. small company to a larger company or a company with a higher hiring bar than your own. or if you are a contractor and want to take a full time role. or you want to switch domains or type of work.
    Mar 29 0