L5 Amazon offer to L62 Microsoft offer

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Feb 28, 2018 15 Comments

I wanted some feedback on my offer I received from Amazon in 2016. I’m expecting an offer from Microsoft (L62, PM2) so I wanted to make sure my expectations are accurate.

Here’s what I got from Amazon in 2016.

L5 (I found out it was an L6 after the fact, but they down leveled me)
Marketing Specialist II
Base: $120k
Sign on: $60k
RSU: worth $70k at sign on

Thoughts? What should I expect from Microsoft? I’m a PM (hybrid tech/non-tech) with four years of experience. Thanks, all.

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  • Microsoft CartelLord
    PM makes less than dev everywhere.
    Feb 28, 2018 6
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      As far as I know, devs and PMs are on the same band per level (depending on org/discipline) at MSFT.
      Feb 28, 2018
    • Microsoft sny9
      PMs don’t make less at Microsoft..
      Feb 28, 2018
    • Microsoft CartelLord
      Usually PM base pay and stock per level is lower than dev at least until 65 I know. When I say lower, its about 10%.
      Feb 28, 2018
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      Day_1more
      False I’m a PM at L60 and make as much as devs. Infact was offered more stock than devs.
      Mar 19, 2018
    • Microsoft sny9
      False indeed, PMs make as much as devs to the exact dollar amount at Microsoft
      Mar 19, 2018
  • Microsoft Iiii
    Ms can beat this easily.
    Feb 28, 2018 0
  • Microsoft CartelLord
    For L62 you can get a base of 135(minimum), 50k sign on + upto 15k relocation. 120k stock.
    Feb 28, 2018 3
    • Amazon FriendZone
      Similar role as OP and offer that came through a few weeks ago and recruiter said they were capped at this level/job type @70-80k for stock.
      Feb 28, 2018
    • Microsoft CartelLord
      Pure bs. PM and Engineering roles college hire at 59 are getting between 80k to 120k. Based on University and whether they have a competing offer etc.
      Feb 28, 2018
    • Amazon FriendZone
      This is non tech role so maybe that's why
      Mar 1, 2018
  • Microsoft / Eng æ
    Do PMs make less than engineers at MS?
    Feb 28, 2018 1
    • Microsoft sny9
      No
      Feb 28, 2018
  • Microsoft DzVJ62
    Workwise L5 is a much better option as at this level you can take the calls much more independently than 62.
    Feb 28, 2018 0

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