Design CareerJul 6, 2018
SAPh2gkmo

Lead vs Senior

*Update* Decided to stick with the Senior title, thanks to everyone that gave advicešŸ™ Iā€™m negotiating a title for a new role (outside of SAP). My current title is Lead, and the role Iā€™m considering is Senior. To my mind, Lead > Senior. What do you folks think? Should I stick with he Senior title or negotiate for a Lead title? FWIW the job responsibilities of the senior role are bigger than my current Lead responsibilities, and I know titles mean different things in different companies... interested to hear your thoughts!

Microsoft Zuzi Jul 6, 2018

Which company? Lead is an unofficial title everywhere Iā€™ve worked. It doesnā€™t mean much. Your bonus and pay grade is tied to your ā€œseniorā€ title.

SAP h2gkmo OP Jul 6, 2018

Itā€™s a pre-IPO startup with the same backers as AirBnb (I donā€™t wanna give more details bc anonymity) - good point about lead being a mostly unofficial title, but Iā€™ve found at similar companies in the industry (I know this is vague sorry) Iā€™ve seen similar official titles of Lead and Senior Lead (which tends to mean a wider-scope manager role).

SAP h2gkmo OP Jul 6, 2018

I donā€™t wanna lose the lead title, maybe negotiating for a senior lead title a good mashup?

Nielsen DrSpark Jul 6, 2018

TC or GTFO

Microsoft Siwiissh Jul 6, 2018

Get head, not just lead. All better than senior.

SAP h2gkmo OP Jul 6, 2018

Does head infer managerial responsibility to you? Thatā€™s what Iā€™m aiming for

Microsoft Siwiissh Jul 6, 2018

Yes. Head should be a ppl manager.

SAP MeMeMešŸ¤– Jul 6, 2018

What is your long term goal for a career path? Would you like your career path to be people management or individual contribution? Ask for a job title that suits your long term career vision šŸ˜ƒ! Future companies will pay attention if you led/managed people or epics products Good luck!

SAP h2gkmo OP Jul 6, 2018

Iā€™d love to transition into people management so Iā€™ll pick a suitable title for that! Thank you! ā˜ŗļø

Facebook uaqx41 Jul 6, 2018

Donā€™t worry so much about title. Every company maps differently.

Uber ettutk Jul 6, 2018

Lead is sometimes used by experienced senior people to indicate they were in charge of something big. Sort of an IC equivalent to "head of"

Amazon Hot==dog Jul 9, 2018

ā€œLeadā€ is meaningless. I see it thrown around all the time. Youā€™re either a manager or an IC. Lead is squishy. If manager, youā€™re either managing ICs or other managersā€”usually what a senior manager does. Or, youā€™re a director. Managing senior managers and so on. If IC, youā€™re either junior or ā€œmid-levelā€, in which case your scope is predictable and fairly limited. Or, senior. If senior, youā€™re probably sought out by a range of people, both within a design org and product, engineering, etc. You get a lot of shit done, accurately and quickly. Above that is principal. Sometimes it means something, often it doesnā€™t. In my experience it means fuck-all but it sounds cool. Where are you looking to go? Depending on what youā€™ve done and your experience, maybe ask for principal.

SAP h2gkmo OP Jul 10, 2018

The role is intended to grow into a management role, so I decided to stick with Senior for now!

Amazon rh67/$1 Feb 19, 2022

The team I am on at Amazon, I am an a Sr UX Designer (L6 IC). My business title is Lead Product Designer. I have a lot more scope than the other L6s designers on my team and provide direction. The instant my business title was changed, I received an off cycle RSU grant (12). I asked my manager about the off cycle grant and they were unaware which leads me to believe that the change in business title to Lead triggered an automatic grant. At least on my team, Lead has weight.