Leave or stay Bloomberg

Bloomberg trickstr
Apr 26, 2018 31 Comments

Became a Team lead early this year (officially) from senior engineer with a team of 3, will be 6 soon (currently 3, hiring 3 more). Grew fast into that role after pushing some great products to production and alot more stuff.

Total Experience: 7 years, TC : 220K (180K plus 40 bonus), Location : NYC

Will be getting career progression of 20-25% next year since they don’t do mid year raises (not sure how true). Getting ownership of more products. Seems like the team will grow to 10 in a year or so from where I can see cz of new products we are building

pros:
- love what i do here
- great team
- good tech stack despite other teams here struggle with legacy
- I still code cz I love it, its not encouraged though. :|
- Great mentorship from senior managers

cons:
- pay outside is better.
- had enough of NYC
- team size decides how good you are. To me it doesn’t matter. Like getting work done!!
- not goog/fb. Always wanted to work for them.
- not in cali so missing the valley here
- not exactly a tech company so not getting the breadth of experience.

have been Leetcoding about a month now and thinking If i can move to M0/M1 at Fb/Google (plz correct me if i am wrong with leveling). Stay or leave? Suggestions? Would I be down-leveling myself if I move now? Will appreciate responses! :)

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TOP 31 Comments
  • Amazon ofhnsjsn
    Why do you not like ny?
    Apr 26, 2018 0
  • Google pilgrim
    Bloomberg culture sucks. Also lots of bad apples/high variance in engineers. I'd suggest moving asap. I stayed multiple years because I had some good colleagues. In retrospect I should have left a lot earlier.
    Apr 26, 2018 5
    • Bloomberg trickstr
      OP
      want to grow in mgmt track & dont want to start as a senior engr again.
      Apr 26, 2018
    • Bloomberg trickstr
      OP
      Also love my colleagues actually. Makes me want to stay.
      Apr 26, 2018
    • Google pilgrim
      @JlkU - both.
      Apr 26, 2018
    • Bloomberg trickstr
      OP
      do you know what level I can apply for in goog?
      Apr 26, 2018
    • Google pilgrim
      Likely L4. Generally need more experience for L5+
      Apr 26, 2018
  • Amazon / Mgmt oLFX72
    If you are a good engineer working at a place that’s had pretty flat growth over the past 5 years and not considered a top tech talent company is a waste of time. You put in your time, go to fresher pastures.
    Apr 26, 2018 0
  • Uber Eropie
    It’s very unlikely any tier 1,2 tech companies will hire a less-than-1-yr team lead from bb as a manager. G/F will not even put you as manager candidate.

    So basically you have two choices:
    - start as a senior engineer in one of the good tech companies
    - stay at bb to gain good management skills and experience (which is valued less btw), and make a switch as manager later.
    Apr 26, 2018 0
  • Google Olaolaola
    Bloomberg has the once you leave you can never come back policy... not sure if that hurts or helps them on retention.
    Apr 26, 2018 1
    • Bloomberg trickstr
      OP
      they changed it now. It used to be. As long as you don’t burn the bridge ofcourse!
      Apr 26, 2018
  • Oscar / Eng
    dumb|dumb

    Oscar Eng

    BIO
    Fuck you, but wats up bro.
    dumb|dumbmore
    Valley? You can save shit ton of money by staying in NYC. But hey, YMMV.
    Apr 26, 2018 1
    • Bloomberg trickstr
      OP
      not really. Its more or less the same. I’ve lived in Cali for 10 years.
      Apr 27, 2018
  • Amazon pure666
    Can give you idea about Amzn. You need to have about 12-15 YoE and many of them as manager in BB or similar companies for chance to become an Amzn L6 manager. G/F should be even tougher because their management/lead position probably starts at higher level (T6 @G).
    Apr 26, 2018 1
    • Bloomberg trickstr
      OP
      Best way to know now I guess is go out and interview. Will update if I get something. thnx for feedback!
      Apr 27, 2018
  • Microsoft SeaHawk!
    Did you try to interview with Microsoft?
    Apr 26, 2018 1
    • Bloomberg trickstr
      OP
      nope. Not hearing good reviews from friends there.
      Apr 26, 2018
  • Google Olaolaola
    Why not try applying for goog nyc? Personally I think the cost of living in SF makes salary improvement negligible
    Apr 26, 2018 3
    • Facebook ByeFelicia
      NY is expensive too.
      Apr 26, 2018
    • Google Olaolaola
      I’ve lived in both. Nyc is considerably cheaper
      Apr 26, 2018
    • Financial Engines
      zimmer

      Financial Engines

      PRE
      Oracle
      zimmermore
      I am bay area now, I am serious thinking of moving NYC. Even if both of us earn it is not enough and house above 1 M not worth it with bad school s
      Apr 27, 2018
  • Deutsche Bank Gongoo
    I think you can try for L5@Google (close to TLM - close to your current role)but you need to smash the interviews. Also if you don't get through you can apply after a year, and at that point a good interview will get you through. If your first interview was decent at least, they definitely keep calling you back. So it's worth trying now
    Apr 27, 2018 2
    • Bloomberg trickstr
      OP
      Yeah, the best way to know is go out and interview. Lets see how it goes. thnx :)
      Apr 27, 2018
    • Deutsche Bank Gongoo
      Pls note that this approach lands you at Google in 1-1.5 yrs at most. BUT the first interview should be well prepared for - you need time to prepare for a Google interview, half hearted preparation will just not do. I did this mistake of scheduling the interview too soon and paid the price
      Apr 27, 2018
  • Bloomberg trickstr
    OP
    finding it hard to answer if I should even move! :/ Any opinions welcome!
    Apr 26, 2018 2
    • Facebook / Eng gJJA84
      I live in NYC and work at FB. You won't be happier, trust me.

      NYC is a sucker's game, get out before you are such here. Move to Seattle or LA and get a FAANG job there. That's my long term plan.

      If you don't like NYC I doubt you'll like SF.
      Apr 27, 2018
    • Bloomberg trickstr
      OP
      I like NYC just need to do something different now.
      Apr 27, 2018
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    • Bloomberg trickstr
      OP
      true that. But you might end up down-leveling which can hurt you in the long run.
      Apr 26, 2018
  • Google montasoul
    How long it takes you to become tech lead at BBG?
    Aug 12 0
  • Tinder / Eng
    meowimacat

    Tinder Eng

    PRE
    Microsoft
    BIO
    Im a cat! Meow 🐈
    meowimacatmore
    Why do you not like NYC?
    Apr 26, 2018 0
  • Bloomberg trickstr
    OP
    Just find it to be a better fit for me as a person.
    Apr 26, 2018 0