LinkedIn vs Google offer

Undisclosed Confusedd
Nov 2, 2018 81 Comments

LinkedIn SWE:

Base: 150, RSU: 280k, Bonus: 10%, Sign on: 60k

Google L3:

Base: 145, GSU: 300k, Bonus: 15%, Sign on: 55k

Both are good teams. YOE: 3.5

From blind it looks like LinkedIn has better perks - $2000 perk up, better food, ESPP, unlimited PTO and better health insurance than Google.
But Google has better brand name and maybe challenging work.

How are refreshers for SWE and L3 at LinkedIn and Google respectively? What about promotion to senior and L4?

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  • Google ayran
    Join Google. Get that brand name on your resume. Get a promotion to T4 in 2 years and then leave.
    Nov 2, 2018 17
    • Undisclosed Confusedd
      OP
      One more question sorry. Since the comp is for T4 level, what kind of raises on base can I expect without promo?
      Nov 2, 2018
    • Spotify Radiator
      The org your joining greatly affects promo, older core products (eg ads or search) will likely have too many people fighting for impactful work. If there’s not enough impactful work, promo will be incredibly difficult no matter how good you are.
      Nov 2, 2018
    • Google ayran
      Thank you Confusedd@

      The salary ranges are broad. So I wouldn't worry too much about it.
      Nov 2, 2018
    • Undisclosed Confusedd
      OP
      @Radiator even L4? I don’t plan sticking longer but I would like to get a promo to L4 at least.
      Nov 3, 2018
    • Spotify Radiator
      The raises will always be smaller if you’re high in band vs low in band and they recently changed it to a formula that is smaller than usually. I think it was about 6% for someone who was high in band for a promo and a bit like that for a SEE rating (they come with much better bonuses, 20% and RSUs 60k/4 years though)
      Nov 4, 2018
  • LinkedIn korekara
    PSA - Linkedin’s refresher is probably the worst. If you can accept that then the rest are heavenly awesome. Good food good perks good culture
    Nov 2, 2018 6
    • Undisclosed bzhsi73
      What is their refresher system?
      Nov 2, 2018
    • LinkedIn dashazhu
      It all depends on your manager. I think for a SWE you get nothing for meets expectation.
      Nov 2, 2018
    • Undisclosed bzhsi73
      Harsh, does meets expectation usually come with at least an inflationary raise though?
      Nov 2, 2018
    • LinkedIn Zeiwkf5
      Meets gets raises. Refreshes are only given to high achievers and people who got screwed on their initial grant compared to their peers.
      Nov 2, 2018
    • LinkedIn dashazhu
      I got a small raise for ME. Manager said my TC is at Sr SWE level already so because of ‘fairness’ I don’t get any refreshers.

      I joined LI at the right time and my initial grant pretty much doubled over the 2 years.
      Nov 2, 2018
  • Facebook Instagrаm
    Wow! Your L3 G offer better than a lot of L4s.
    Nov 2, 2018 1
    • Undisclosed Confusedd
      OP
      Thanks! I don’t know why they didn’t level me at L4, given that some people get L4 with > 3 YOE. My interview rating was pretty good according to my recruiter but since comp is in that band I am not much worried.
      As someone else mentioned refreshers at L3 and L4 are almost similar.
      Nov 3, 2018
  • LinkedIn kxkf80
    both are nice offers. just FYI the best perk in linkedin is the two-week shutdown
    Nov 2, 2018 7
    • Undisclosed bzhsi73
      What is the "two week shutdown"? Two random weeks off outside of vacation?
      Nov 2, 2018
    • LinkedIn dashazhu
      LinkedIn has July 4th week off and Christmas week off for everyone. On top of that you get unlimited PTO.
      Nov 2, 2018
    • Undisclosed bzhsi73
      Wow that is awesome. Good culture / management there too?
      Nov 2, 2018
    • LinkedIn Zeiwkf5
      Yes
      Nov 2, 2018
    • LinkedIn qTnk64
      Perks are meaningless. You get a shutdown but you also get frustrated out of your mind because you're surrounded by people that just can't care less about doing a good job (on average, some folks do hustle). If you need a club med experience then LinkedIn, otherwise go to Google. Fyi our attrition in eng and product is double than Google's, guess why.
      Nov 3, 2018
  • Facebook lonb84
    Curious, why would you say that LinkedIn is a worse brand than google? I would argue that they’re probably similar, and the team that you’re working on is more important, but that’s just me.
    Nov 2, 2018 2
    • Undisclosed Confusedd
      OP
      Well Google still carries more weight on resume I think. LinkedIn is not far behind but if work is similar then Google wins in my opinion for brand name.
      Nov 2, 2018
    • Facebook lonb84
      That makes sense. Best of luck in making a decision
      Nov 2, 2018
  • LinkedIn dashazhu
    No refreshers for me at LI for 2 years. I am going to G in December.
    Nov 2, 2018 12
    • LinkedIn dashazhu
      It is a small improvement to my current TC of ~255K. Sign on is great but it is a one time thing. I really appreciate the L4 they gave me which is one level above SWE at LinkedIn.

      I think getting G on my resume will help me get a better offer elsewhere in the future. Or if I start a company when I get my GC I can call myself an ex-Googler.

      With good refreshers I can see myself staying at G for at least 3 years even if I only ME every year.
      Nov 2, 2018
    • Undisclosed Confusedd
      OP
      I would say you should target for L5 in 3 years. And I will target for L4 lol. Also refreshers for L4 are around 80k for meets which are good.

      Are you joining on receipt? Can you dm me what BAL told you for denials?
      Nov 3, 2018
    • LinkedIn dashazhu
      Yes I am joining on receipt. I can’t DM you because you hid your company.
      Nov 3, 2018
    • Apple Pmjyds
      OP are you joining in December? How long did it take to get the receipt?
      Nov 14, 2018
    • Apple Pmjyds
      @LinkedIn what was it in your case?
      Nov 14, 2018
  • LinkedIn cat5
    My refresher at linkedin was generous, higher than goog and fb having spoken to friends at those companies.
    Nov 3, 2018 13
    • Undisclosed Confusedd
      OP
      Great! Not sure what will be better but for TC looks like LinkedIn will be the king because of stock appreciation. What do you suggest, given contradicting answers for refreshers :(
      Nov 3, 2018
    • LinkedIn eFvz21
      For refreshers I would say it really depends on your team. I am in the LTS org which brings in 50% of revenue at LinkedIn so my refreshers were quite good over the years. If you want more consistent refreshers regardless of team, go with Google, but if you know you're going to a big org at LinkedIn and think you'll do well with your manager, LinkedIn would be equally as good for refreshers
      Nov 3, 2018
    • Undisclosed Confusedd
      OP
      I heard infra teams like Kafka, Data have better refreshers than Applications team. Is that true? I doubt that because they are not direct revenue generating team.
      I am equally concerned about stock appreciation which I can’t predict but can definitely say MSFT is going to be better than GOOG.
      With current suggestions all comes to my mind is flipping a coin.
      Nov 3, 2018
    • LinkedIn eFvz21
      I'm not sure about that. Are you going to an infra team? I know that infra people get promoted faster because they impact things across organization. Not sure about refreshers doe
      Nov 3, 2018
    • LinkedIn cat5
      They are all true. Infra could have more impact and potentially more depth in terms of eng, or orgs like LTS it is easier to show your contribution (breadth) because they move faster. I believe this isn't something specific to LinkedIn, but you'll see this at Goog or FB as well.

      If you prove to be valuable to the team's mission, the company will probably throw money at you to keep you. This all has to do with how you do.

      But what you can't control are the benefits, perks, food, and stock appreciation 😆 And at the end of the day, if one doesn't work out, the other will always be there.
      Nov 3, 2018
  • Facebook utGz11
    What’s the $2k perk you refer to? Curious how the unlimited PTO works in practice? Also, when are the 2 weeks shutdown? Is it something similar to Apple’s shutdown that happens in Thanksgiving and Christmas?
    Nov 2, 2018 2
    • Undisclosed Confusedd
      OP
      $2k towards fitness, classes any other activity extra yearly. One week off during July 4th. One week during Christmas.
      Nov 2, 2018
    • LinkedIn taze
      It can be used for other things too. Like tax preparation or house cleaning for example
      Nov 2, 2018
  • New FAANG_
    Can you share interviews experience?
    Nov 2, 2018 1
    • Undisclosed Confusedd
      OP
      Google was all algorithmic! Standard 4 rounds, mostly LC medium-hard with some variations. I think I solved question optimally in every round without much hints expect one where I needed good hints.
      LinkedIn was 4 algorithmic, 1 sys design. All LC tagged LinkedIn questions both medium and hard ones.
      Nov 3, 2018
  • Juniper Xrzbewq
    Congratulations on your offers!! Your LinkedIn interviews were for which track? I am interviewing with them soon and had a few questions. I can dm you if you dont mind.
    Nov 2, 2018 3
    • Undisclosed Confusedd
      OP
      Mine was for Applications.
      Nov 2, 2018
    • Juniper Xrzbewq
      Cool! How were the interview rounds? Does solving linkedin tagged leetcode questions help?
      Nov 2, 2018
    • Undisclosed Confusedd
      OP
      Yes all my questions were LC tagged. Definitely recommend it for LinkedIn.
      Nov 3, 2018
  • New FAANG_
    What does mean refresher?
    Nov 3, 2018 1
    • Undisclosed Confusedd
      OP
      Yearly stock increase. Google L3 is around 50-80k / 4 depending on rating. No idea about LinkedIn.
      Nov 3, 2018
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    • Undisclosed Confusedd
      OP
      Leetcode, system design primer and grokking the system design. Sadly nothing else helps.
      Nov 2, 2018
  • Congrats! What's your current company and where are the offers' locations?
    Nov 2, 2018 1
    • Undisclosed Confusedd
      OP
      Can’t disclose current company sorry. Both in Bay Area.
      Nov 3, 2018
  • LinkedIn ajIk02
    LinkedIn refreshers are very poor
    Nov 11, 2018 0
  • LinkedIn fnun
    congrats on your offers. Linkedin refreshes are bad. btw how come you are getting 15% bonus for L3 isnt it 10?
    Nov 3, 2018 0