A friend who interviewed recently lied about his salary. His interview went well and he had been offered what he wanted. He is a US Citizen, so no payslips needed for H1 transfer. Would it be an issue. Thanks
TOP 58 Comments
- BT bjor13Why is what your old employer paid you the starting point of the pay scale? Your friend should ask what they paid the last person. I bet they don't answer.......
- It's easy to get salary from your tax reports during a background check. They need to check if you broke tax laws previously, right?
- it probably won't run him into trouble, but this can easily be avoided. if someone asks you what your current salary, is simply reply "I expect my salary to reach X by next year"
- LinkedIn richiBe careful with this. Someone showed me their background check, and it had exact salary of previous positions. If you get caught telling lies, could be bad. Still surprised that background checks raised salary data...
- BigCommerce ontimethinfor my current job when I was interviewing I told them that my job at the time was about to bump me up to X if I were willing to stay. it's not official so they really can't verify it. if you've gotten them to trust you enough to want to make an offer it might work.Jul 23, 2017 0
- Cisco / Mgmt Kil'kaJust tell that he calculated the total comp with all perks and have the calculation ready
- New Philly1. Never lie about this. Instead pivot the question into what range you're looking to make in your next role. And add to it. If you currently make $100, say "in my next role I'm looking to make $130-160". You haven't lied, and yet you're looking for that 20% bump minimum (if they come back lower than your range)
2. If an employer asked me for my W2 to verify, I'm walking. My earning history is only a way for them to devalue my contributions and possibly pay less for a valued role at their company. This is especially true for women who are underpaid to begin with and will NEVER get over the hump with these crap tactics.
- Many places view it like this: if you're willing to lie to line your pockets, how do we know you won't steal, or sell trade secrets, or sell us out to competitors? If he is found out, which is not at all impossible, he will have possibly have made a seriously career-limiting, or ending, decision.
- No one is holding a gun to your head when they ask previous salary. Start with "when we get to that point, we can talk about compensation. I'm expecting you'll make an offer that matches a current reasonable salary for the position and my abilities.." Then you stop talking. If they insist, stick with it. You want to make them name a number first. They're trying to get you to do the same. If they insist, then use your Glassdoor research to name a salary they're paying plus a chunk as your starting point - "Well, based on my research, I think I'm worth X in this position. What would you like to offer?" and see how it goes. If they accept your offer, you were low, and can use that when your next salary action comes up.
- Twitter tzzJ62Stupid to lie on a question you dont have to answer and is only a small portion of total comp. Can only get you rejected.
- Gartner JennoMaybe I'm bad at this, but I've never been able to pivot successfully unless I walk from the opportunity. Recruiters straight up tell me they need this info first round to proceed, and at offer time ask for a previous Paystub/W2. May be a side-affect of being a woman.
- Recruiters tend to want this as they generally know the salary range for positions they are filling, even if those ranges are not posted. So the recruiters don't want to push and advance a candidate that would be way above the range, as in the end there will never be an offer and they will not get their commission.
With applying directly and not through a recruiter, you have more wiggle room as salary probably won't come up till you are close to an offer.Jul 21, 2017 0
- Zymergen / Eng nBow31This is why for my first ever job I went with the highest bidder instead of drinking the cool-aid of a tech company that thought I should take a lower salary just for the privilege of working for them. Your first salary factors into your second. Whether we like it or not, it's how the world generally works because HR people don't want to figure out how much someone is worth. They just figure the company before them did a decent job of it and so they take that number and just bump it up a bit. Unless you're switching into a very different field or role at a vastly richer company you're always going to be pegged somewhere at the market rate.
- New / Mgmt RRJi62Background checks can pull previous salaries. Most companies make their offers contingent on clear reports. Lying about this will bite them in the end.
- Mixpanel mp13Have fired in the past for lying about salary when the background check didn't match. In SF they can't ask your current salary and no matter where you are turn the conversation to what your expectations are vs your previous salary.
- Don't lie. If an offer is made, many companies then run a background and employment verification check with the offer being contingent on passing. If the check turns out you lied about your titles, or how you left a company, or salary history, it can mean the offer is yanked, or that you end up at the company but HR and the management never quite trusts you (but never tell you why).