MS L61 getting Amazon L5 TPM

Looking for advice on salary. I’m a L61 at Microsoft and just got a L5 TPM offer at Amazon. 140k base, 70k signing, 80 RSU Tc = 175k I feel like they are lowballing me and I should at least be making 200k. Thoughts?

Oracle VegasLas Oct 4, 2017

How much do you make at Microsoft?

Microsoft rummy OP Oct 4, 2017

155k tc

Oracle VegasLas Oct 4, 2017

I don't know if it's low offer or not but don't go to amazon just for 20k. Including benefits Microsoft paying you more.

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Microsoft rummy OP Oct 4, 2017

Windows Group and 4 years exp

Amazon wr7up6 Oct 4, 2017

We’re full! Definitely don’t take the offer, back to Windows please

eBay KellyEllis Oct 4, 2017

Amazing how low amzn offers are for L5 tpm vs g/f. I know tpms from both places making about 300 tc, excluding signon.

Facebook n00b🤔 Oct 5, 2017

G/F L5 is senior, equivalent level at Amazon is L6

Microsoft Tashai Oct 4, 2017

Microsoft's benefits are worth more than 20k over Amazon's. That's not even a pay bump from you. Negotiate.

Microsoft mIzB27 Oct 4, 2017

Does it really worth 20k? From where? I guess 401k is 9k

Microsoft Tashai Oct 5, 2017

9k 401k, 2k HSA, 3k ESPP gain and the remaining money from better medical benefits and the ability to contribute 20k after tax into your 401k. It could even be as much as 25k extra over the long term. That make sense?

Microsoft hYGc64 Oct 4, 2017

You should be able to push for 150 base, 120 signing, 200 stock

Microsoft iQcd10 Oct 4, 2017

Nope. Those are L6 ranges

Microsoft hYGc64 Oct 4, 2017

Hmm then guess Dev and tpm gave different ranges

Microsoft rangoon Oct 4, 2017

OP is the 155tc from benefits portal which includes 401k, espp etc. Or is it just cash?. If it is the latter, add 20k to your TC. So it'll be 175.

Microsoft rummy OP Oct 4, 2017

I added 10k instead of 20k (since that’s what I make use of at Microsoft) in my original 155k

Microsoft rangoon Oct 4, 2017

Well, 9k 401k, 1k hsa, 2.5k espp, at least 1.5k in medical premiums and 0.8k stay fit money

Microsoft n0p3 Oct 4, 2017

Levels.fyi

Microsoft VJvc44 Oct 4, 2017

Amazon is a sweat shop.

Nordstrom JKLo82 Oct 4, 2017

Always counter for more! But that said take the offer, you can always go back to Microsoft if you can’t make it at Amazon. You are going to grow your value at Amazon with their devops deep customer focus.

Amazon AryaWFell Oct 4, 2017

175k Tc is standard for l5 tpm. I don't think you are being short changed. But if it's not a significant raise from where you are right now you shouldn't take the job.

Microsoft rummy OP Oct 4, 2017

Makes sense, yeah it certainly seems the pay grade isn’t really going up that much.