Mad about Google and Facebook

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Sep 1, 2017 274 Comments

I've around 2 years experience in soft dev and have failed Google phone screen twice and fb's once. Not just failed but did terrible in all 3 interviews. I did go to onsite for other top companies like Microsoft, Amazon n LinkedIn but didn't perform great.

I have both my bachelors and masters in computer science and I love coding. I see people from different background join some bootcamp or prepare for couple of months and get into top companies. I being from computer science background and working as SE in bay area finds it so difficult.

Its my dream to work for those companies. Not just dream I'm actually obsessed about it. I understand all the basics of algos n ds. I'm motivated but I don't work much for it.

I am looking for some advice here. I know those two companies are not the end of the world or even the fact that I may not like it after joining. But that's my dream I just want to work for one of the two companies.

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  • Microsoft mossit
    Did you practice the problems on leetcode on a whiteboard at home for 3 months?
    Sep 1, 2017 19
    • Amazon / Eng sneakybutt
      Keep in mind that the purpose of whiteboarding is not necessarily to solve the problem, but to see how you work through the problem with an interviewer. You are being tested on your ability to work with others to get at the solution. An important part of whiteboarding is to ask lots of questions up front to remove any ambiguity, and treat the interviewer as a teammate by bouncing ideas off them if you get stuck. My advice is to buy a whiteboard and practice solving a fee problems at home, during which you should talk through your approach out loud.
      Sep 2, 2017
    • Rackspace / Eng
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      pair coding on a laptop lets you test all of those things in a more realistic environment.
      Sep 3, 2017
    • Microsoft / Eng corpcult
      true but at the same time it tends to promote a hack-and-hope mentality as well. Not saying it does for everyone, but there are lots of people who believe being a developer is about looking up stackoverflow questions and applying it to their problem. While we know someone who is good will still utilize SO, it's obvious that some mentelities are different from others and they should at least understand the abstract concepts without having to trust a 3rd party about how to implement an algortihm correctly.

      We wont normally be working hand in hand on a laptop, except when we're trying to figure out a problem and see runtime behavior. But in the problem solving phase, I need someone who can whiteboard the solution because there may be a few iterations and trying to code that solution only to know that it sucks and isn't well thought out is expensive. White boarding is an invaluable skill in the software world. It makes sense that it's exercised so much.
      Sep 3, 2017
    • Rackspace / Eng
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      Very true. But the interviewer can still pay attention to all of that. It's easy to observe the difference between someone who uses SO to understand their problem, and someone who blindly copy and pastes from it.
      Sep 3, 2017
    • Airbnb pklP73
      I've worked at both Google and Facebook and this is the best response I've seen to a question like this so far. I practiced coding questions for 3 months on a whiteboard that I bought for my home. That's it.
      Sep 15, 2017
  • Apple ierE46
    I posted the following in a separate thread where somebody that was an Apple fanboy had a dream of working at Apple and wanted an internal referral. I suspect that some of my points might apply to you, so I am reposting, but I have not edited the content to include the companies you're interested in.

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    "I've always been an apple fanboy" - as someone that has interviews candidates, I would like to advise you to temper your fanboy-self during the interview process and really try to understand why you want to work at Apple. There are some things I watch out for with fanboy candidates:

    1) what aspects is it about Apple but the fan boy loves? If it's just because "Apple is cool", "I love all Apple products" or "i've been dreaming about working at Apple since forever", it raises a huge red flag for me. It's not that I think the candidate will be bad at the job, I am worried that the candidate will become disillusioned with Apple once they are on the inside and grow very bitter and depressed about working at Apple (sort of like the old saying "never meet your heroes"). If their reasoning is more about the type of work and the type of problems that they will be working on at Apple, I'm a bit more settled by someone that describes themselves as a fanboy.

    2) can the fanboy be critical of Apple. A big part of the job is to make amazing products that people will love. There's a lot of R&D that goes into that. I'm not saying you should shit talk Apple product in your interview, but if you get a question about a product, be prepared to discuss constructive criticism's rather than just accepting that "there's not a flaw with it because Apple is awesome."

    3) Whether the fanboy can back up their skills for the job required/appropriately market themselves. This seems like a no-brainer, however I've been in interview situations where the candidate only talks about their enthusiasm and fanboy-isms related to Apple and fail to discuss their actual skill set that would be good for a team. Sometimes the interviewer won't probe that much, so if you missed your opportunity to discuss your amazing skills because you only discussed your love, the interviewer may be mused by your optimism, but come out of the interview thinking you have nothing to offer.

    4) Is the candidate asking appropriate questions related to the job they are applying for. Another red flag for me is when a candidate asks more questions about Apple lore, Cook, Jobs or Ives. this may not always be something that indicates you lack skill, but I want candidates to also be interested in the work they're going to be doing.

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    In addition to these points that I discussed with the Apple fanboy, I have additional advice for you.

    A) You wrote "Not just failed but did terrible in all 3 interviews. I did go to onsite for other top companies like Microsoft, Amazon n LinkedIn but didn't perform great."

    This is a red flag for me. My question for you is why are you performing poorly?

    If you have the skill set to do the work and do it well and you are still failing the interview, it might be a poor personality fit. Alternately, the way you are presenting yourself might be unlikable - there's a fine line between being a confident candidate and a smug unlikable asshole.

    B) Are you coming across as too desperate to your interviewers?

    From what I read in your post, I sense desperation - desperation is terribly unattractive in a candidate.

    Do not over-pester the recruiting team. When one door closes, take whatever advice you were given, and any timeframes you were told about reapplying and do your best to abide within reason. For instance, if you fail one interview with Google, don't reapply one month later or hit up a different recruiter on LinkedIn hoping for a different outcome. Recruiters talk and the last thing you want is to become known as a little cockroach that won't accept no for an answer, or doesn't seem to be trying to take the time to develop their skills set further before reapplying.

    Related: Don't beg for internal referrals - have coffee dates with your contacts first, and if they are impressed with your skill set and offer advice or offer to give you an internal referral, then take it. But never beg, it's a sure fire way to either be ignored or have your resume passed along with a note to "do not contact". Also, if you don't like the outcome you got from a recruiter or the folks that interviewed you from the team, do not try to contact team directors or managers directly begging for a job or trying to get another interview. I see both these cases with surprising frequency. Directors and managers tend to trust that their people have already made the right call, and it just makes the candidate appear pathetic.

    C) Are you over-valuing your credentials?

    "I have both my bachelors and masters in computer science"
    I frequently see candidates that think their University Pedegree speaks for it self. It may be a good foot in the door to get the initial interview, but I am going to want to see how you back this up. I don't care where you worked, or where you went to school, I want you to market what you can do for me and my team.

    D)you wrote: "I'm motivated but I don't work much for it."

    This is another red flag. A lot of work requires champions and people that are willing to go out and find problems to solve and take the initiative. If you're a fast learner, but come across as someone that has to be told what to do (I.e. You are reactive, not proactive) you may not be a great candidate for these companies.

    Take a look at your current work portfolio. How many of the projects you are working on are projects that you were involved with from inception and are the lead on- and how many of these assignments were simply given to you. How many times have you found a problem that needs to be fixed at your current job and you volunteered to tackle it – and how many times have you seen a problem and thought "someone else will deal with that" and you ignored it.

    E) Re-evaluate why you want a job at these places.

    You have a gig at PayPal. What are you not getting at this job that you think you will get at the others?
    I play devils advocate on the reasons people give me. Just a few examples.
    -Prestige? - Remember this is a job, not a Coco Chanel handbag.
    -Dream? - that's interesting, what is your expectation on the internal working environment? What aspects about 'company x' make it a dream company?
    - Career growth? - great answer, but what kind of career growth do you want and why do you think you're not getting it in your current position? How do you plan on getting this career growth? What steps have you taken to be your own champion of your career growth?
    -More money/benefits? - well everyone wants this, what are the other things that you require to be satisfied in your line of work?

    Find what is right for you long term and 😉
    Sep 1, 2017 21
    • Intel radio1
      @ierE46 very candid - great job..
      Sep 2, 2017
    • Facebook Uhhhhh
      @chancellor I'm at Facebook and would never hire you. I think you're either a clueless fraud or a savvy troll.
      Sep 2, 2017
    • Eigen / Eng
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      @FB and I wouldn't care what you think .. You are entitled to have your own opinion . so carry on bud
      Sep 2, 2017
    • Nextdoor e7gb3r
      @chancellor yeah it’s pretty clear why you’re not getting hired. It has nothing to do with coding skills....you just have a shitty attitude. I don’t want you anywhere near my teams.
      Sep 2, 2017
    • IBM Kinetix
      Wow... I can only hope I don't encounter anyone like you on my future teams. You have some issues to work out, and they're far more extensive than just technical practice.
      Sep 2, 2017
  • Eigen / Eng
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    Its not only you many has this problem Cracking Interview for Top 4 requires massive amount of luck..

    And No leetcode wont help.. In my 3 encounter so far, the closest question I ever got matched with Ctci and Leetcode is 1.. Every freaking time I get new questions..

    I haven't mastered leetcode but have seen almost all question and solve 40-45 % of them..

    Telling you when luck is against you, nothing works
    Sep 1, 2017 18
    • CAA / Eng jadziadax
      Chancellor, please don't take this the wrong way, but your English is terrible. I am 100% confident that it is holding you back in interviews more than your technical skills. Every comment I've seen you write in this whole thread is truly painful to read. Work on your English skills, both written and spoken, and you'll have better "luck". No one wants to work with someone that they can't understand, even if they are a genius and a poet in their native tongue.
      Sep 1, 2017
    • Google xyz_123
      The idea is to learn, not to memorise questions and answers. Moreover, it is quite obviously when candidate knows the answer but didn't disclose it, making "no hire" an easy decision, so don't do it - don't learn bunch of questions expecting to come across one at the interview, instead just practice for solving unexpected problems. Good interview question designed to check how candidate think and solve the problem, not what they know (besides the basic CS), so of the shelf answers are rarely applicable. Learned answers have an opposite effect - just recently I've recommended "no hire" for a candidate who solved the problem I gave, but failed to explain logic behind some of the algorithms they used, making obvious that they memorised the algo without fully understanding it.
      Sep 2, 2017
    • Boeing / Eng TinFoilHat
      So do you think 15 yr guys bother with the why when they see a problem they know can be solved by a particular algorithm?
      Sep 2, 2017
    • Microsoft / Eng
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      You don't get it, the point is not to memorize solutions from some exercise website or book , the point is to see if you can come up with your own solution. Your education failed you, it seems your education rewarded memorized solutions and you still are trying to mimic that.
      Sep 4, 2017
    • Boeing / Eng TinFoilHat
      How would you propose I break that habit then? I'm very much into continuing my education so you have any suggestions?
      Sep 5, 2017
  • Amazon / Eng Aeofel
    While you could and definitely should practice questions on leetcode or interviewcake or some site like that, I'd like to offer another point of view.

    Phone screens are a little harder as you can't see the person face to face. But on site loops..well...here's the rub:
    I think you might want it so badly that you end up in a knot and then all your skills work against you instead of working for you. As silly as it sounds, try not to write code next time. When the coding question comes up, be yourself. Talk about the problem. Look for the story behind the problem and talk about it with the interviewer. Then, by the time you write some code you might be a little more relaxed, you might get a little more help or nudges along the way and you might get the result you dream about.

    Don't stop dreaming, the dream is there and you can make it happen. Just don't give up!
    Sep 1, 2017 1
    • Intel radio1
      @Aeofel great job encouraging this guy.
      Sep 2, 2017
  • Cisco +nt-ispklm
    Memorizing leetcode won’t help; understanding leetcode will. — That is a subtle and important difference.
    Sep 1, 2017 4
    • Google smoothie
      Omg I was going through the comments and thinking exactly this! Concepts need to be mastered. It is not a mnemonic game! Also leetcode was incredible.
      Sep 2, 2017
    • Cisco +nt-ispklm
      Yup. It is an open book, open minds exam. — I don’t believe it is the best way to assess talent; though that’s the game we are in, so better make it a fun learning experience.
      Sep 2, 2017
    • Uber / Eng
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      Jesus yes thank you. It's even better because since you're learning instead of memorizing, it actually makes you better at your job.
      Sep 2, 2017
    • Google smoothie
      Agree, I honestly had a good time. Learned tons about graphs, recursion, bitwise manipulation and dynamic programming.
      Sep 2, 2017
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    • Bank of America BIXh16
      Has it ever occurred to you to give a suggestion instead of a brutal reply
      Sep 1, 2017
    • Bank of America BIXh16
      Good
      Sep 1, 2017
    • Microsoft
      സുന്ദരൻ

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      What a dick!
      Sep 2, 2017
    • Salesforce unclebeny
      Not all of Salesforce is like lyXQ11.
      Sep 2, 2017
  • Micro Focus / Eng
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    It's who you know.
    Sep 1, 2017 3
    • Facebook Azlh51
      It’s really not. It’s nailing the interview. I don’t think the coding interviews tell you much of anything about programming skill, but they do show you can train a skill. Learning is incredibly important in the industry and you gotta be able to do it well.
      Sep 1, 2017
    • Facebook wrxXv73V8k
      Who you know may get you the interview but it won't get you the job.
      Sep 1, 2017
    • Uber aUKs78
      The Facebook folks are correct. Top companies fail if they don't get top talent. I've done over 500 interviews at various top companies in the last 10 years. Pretty much always an attempt is made to be objective and merit based. maybe 2 or 3 times I felt someone pulled rank based on a connection.

      I will say that a lot of interviewing is random and there are a lot of dumbshit interviewers that look for the wrong things.
      Sep 1, 2017
  • Microsoft c:
    Fuck Google and Facebook and their leetcode interviews. Does not really determine a person's capability. Publish your own app on both app stores and let your work speak for itself. Contribute to open source.
    Sep 1, 2017 6
    • Microsoft c:
      True. But demonstrating you can work on some other code shows some apptitude. Or publish a technical article, etc...
      Sep 1, 2017
    • Facebook wrxXv73V8k
      Microsoft at least used to do these sorts of interviews too...

      I can't speak for Google but I know Facebook has hired at least some people on the strength of their open source portfolio, usually when we were interested in said open source project advancing.
      Sep 1, 2017
    • Microsoft Dollars
      The funny thing is Microsoft is now asking leetcode questions as well. Our team is growing rapidly and almost everyone in the loop is asking LC questions. It's like what they used to say about Google, if you reinterview Goog employees, there's a good chance they won't be hired again.
      Sep 1, 2017
    • Microsoft 3doors
      So let me get this straight, essentially you know where the questions are coming from yet you don't study it but complain? This is not the right mindset, do your HW before complaining
      Sep 7, 2017
    • Microsoft Harambe01
      There are 600 questions. It would take you atleast a year to master the
      Sep 7, 2017
  • Facebook / Other nvm
    You're motivated but don't work much for it?... If taken literally, what do you want us to do? You don't put in actual effort then too bad.
    Sep 1, 2017 3
    • VMware / Sales dgPu18
      Motivated and obsessed, but don't put much effort in? I feel like I'm missing something in OP's definition of those words.
      Sep 1, 2017
    • Amazon ratnutz
      Yeah that is a strange comment the OP said. He seems to "want" to work there but his actions don't indicate a true motivation.
      Sep 1, 2017
    • Google smoothie
      He clearly has a L7-9 vision
      Sep 2, 2017
  • Boeing / Eng TinFoilHat
    Why not SpaceX? You're obviously a fan of The Musk and you're in PayPal
    Sep 1, 2017 3
    • Juniper jpaero
      that's not how it works. that not how any of this works!
      Sep 1, 2017
    • Uber ZombieZoo
      SpaceX interview is for very few ones. This is obviously MS material.
      Sep 1, 2017
    • Amazon / Eng jskskd
      I'm a huge spacex fan but 60+ hour work weeks for mediocre pay is not worth it.
      Sep 2, 2017
  • Facebook Azlh51
    Do you actually practice coding questions with time constraints? You need to do this.
    Sep 1, 2017 2
    • VMware EgSF35
      How did you practice? Can you share some advice?
      Sep 1, 2017
    • HPE / Eng
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      Cracking the coding interview. Interview cake. Hacker rank. Mock interviews with friends. Get used to**writing** the answers out and talking someone through your thought process as you derive the solution.
      Sep 1, 2017
  • Uber
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    1. Have you asked the recruiters what the feedback was? Ask them directly why you failed and how you could have done better. Always to do this and build it into your psyche. Facebook/Google seek people who learn from their failures. The old feedback is now in the system, so not only do you have to do well in the future, you need to demonstrate that you have evolved and learn from past mistakes. Knowing whether there is technical vs. cultural concern will be huge so that you can focus on the right thing.

    2. Anticipate the problems and know your audience. If you can get the list of names of your interview loop, look each candidate up and know their background and things that are important to them. Solve the problems in a tailored way that demonstrate thoughtfulness.

    3. Ask questions - not for your benefit but for theirs. Asking questions that reveal your level of understanding of challenges and problems is critical. Very rarely do candidates ask decent questions. It’s always soft-ball questions like “what is the team like?” or “what is your favorite part of working here?” These are rubbish. Ask questions that demonstrate that you understand their constraints and then be prepared with an answer if they don’t have a solution. Also, ask each interviewer if they have any concerns with your candidacy,then address their concern before they leave. Don’t let that go unspoken.

    4. Understand that you are not inferior. Nobody wants to hire someone who thinks that they are inferior or someone who grovels for the position. You must present yourself as an equal.

    5. Don’t linger on what you don’t know. If you don’t know something don’t agonize over it. Be quick to say “next question” and maximize the time in areas of strength, but ask for the answer to the question. It will show that you care to learn and grow, that you understand your strengths and weaknesses. And, if you are ever asked that same question in the future, you’ll know how to respond :)

    6. Understand that they don’t always get it right. The founder of WhatsApp also dreamed about working for Facebook. He interviewed and was rejected, then founded the company. A few years later it was acquired for Facebook for 19 billion. He now has a leadership position and sits on the board of directors. Hold your head up and always do your best work and good things will come.
    Sep 1, 2017 4
    • Charles Schwab / Eng
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      This is one of the most heart-felt AND objective responses I've seen thus far
      Sep 1, 2017
    • Uber
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      Thanks HoloKnight. See, Uber isn’t so bad after all :)
      Sep 1, 2017
    • Uber
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      One thing that I will add — if you admire Google and Facebook for what they are now, then look towards the people who made it what it is.

      Lots of the people join these companies now think that they built it. They didn’t. They get to tinker around the edges.

      I’d advise you to follow the people and not the brand. In other words, if all of the original brilliant minds are leaving for another company — consider that the second generation may be greater than the first. Check out paysa.com to view stats regarding talent flow.
      Sep 1, 2017
    • Charles Schwab / Eng
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      Off topic but, I've discovered that "socially awkward space" where, one of my friends jump-started Favor in Austin TX, and another friend told me he got an offer from Uber.
      So, this brings the question...
      Is Uber Eats a direct inspiration of Favor?
      Sep 1, 2017
  • Expedia fanboy
    Yeah yeah. Bootcampers don't get paid nearly as much as standard engineers + they literally have no avenue for escape. The good or bad, they're stuck with the company. You my not realize it, but bootcampers are the new slaves of the company.
    Sep 1, 2017 4
    • Bank of America BIXh16
      You are right. I see many companies push for recruiting boot campers just to pay them less
      Sep 1, 2017
    • But they're taking jobs from legit folks. Brand still matters on resumes.
      Sep 8, 2017
    • Bank of America BIXh16
      I don know why people always see competition in free market as taking jobs. As long as it works for both the sides, it is OK. But it takes a decade for boot campers to know that they are underpaid. I see $64k ruby developer jobs in sfo. WTF
      Sep 8, 2017
    • Expedia fanboy
      Hulu, taking jobs from whom? It's a free market, they take lower pay and provide lower set of skills. You take a higher pay, provide more skills.
      Sep 8, 2017
  • LearnVest FQnD63
    Woody Allen wrote: "I'd never join a club that accepts people like me" I'm paraphrasing to this: why would you dream to be a part of a company that accepts mediocrity covered by a couple of weeks of boot camps geared for interviews instead of seeking a place that identifies talent by talking to people first...
    A blessing in disguise as far as I see it. I personally know people that I would not hire to be in my teams that got easily in.
    Now I'm not saying by any way that that's all the engineers there, but a company that hires sooooo many people every year, regardless of what's out there this month, is bound to start missing the mark.
    Enjoy your career elsewhere and don't waste your time :)
    Sep 1, 2017 1
    • Yahoo qFJS13
      Totally on point- make your own grass green instead of admiring theirs. For future reference, paraphrased quote was Groucho Marx vs Woody Allen.
      Sep 2, 2017
  • Qualcomm PJHW07
    At least 3 months leetcode...solve all the problems ...and then solve again within time constraints.... esp the ones you couldnt solve before..take as many mock interviews as possible... either with friends or site like praamp.com...that should do it.... as someone mentioned, having CS degree isn't enough..you need leetcode degree as well 😂
    Sep 1, 2017 10
    • Yahoo anonhoo
      I honestly don't think it's possible to solve 600 leet code questions in 3 months
      Sep 1, 2017
    • Eigen / Eng
      chancellor

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      Most of the questions you actually can skip because they are similar.. Questions from Easy categories are generally covered in medium so if you follow medium then go back to easy most of them are covered
      Sep 1, 2017
    • Proofpoint DGTT38
      I think the interviewer was intentionally throwing you for a loop with those constraints. I think your real failure was being embarrassed to ask for help, and not trying to collaborate on getting it solved.
      Sep 1, 2017
    • Microsoft / Eng Notatroll
      Well interviewer could be bad as well.
      Sep 1, 2017
    • Eigen / Eng
      chancellor

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      @Msft.. Yup few days back I had a Msft Phone Screen . A non native guy was lil kinda rude.. He explained his team stuffs and asked me to ask him questions and when I asked he was like "Thats not need to know right now " I was like WTF.. lol.. Interview went well but lasted like 30 minutes only with easy problems but ended awkwardly
      Sep 1, 2017
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    • Uber
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      Yes, they like to hire the best of the best of the best.

      But, there are also junior and mid-level positions. For these, the company looks for signs that the person will be a rockstar. A fire in their belly, passion for the subject, an ability to learn and grow quickly. There are many ways to be the best, including having the best attitude and work ethic.
      Sep 2, 2017
    • Uber
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      What the hell do I know about it? Well, I just used to be in a hiring position at Facebook. So I’m talking first hand experience here.

      Extraordinary is nice, but not always a requirement. If you can get the interview, then you have a shot.
      Sep 2, 2017
    • Square fPJl26
      Sevenrooms is a perfect example of an arrogant engineer who clearly has his head so far up his ass that he can't admit there are other talented skilled engineers out there who can do his job better than he can (even if they don't perform well on tech interviews on their first shot.) OP, don't give up, try try again and don't be discouraged by this prick.
      Sep 2, 2017
    • Square fPJl26
      You don't have to be amazing, this is a myth of Silicon Valley, perpetuated by arrogant people like the one on this thread. You just have to try, work to your strengths, identify your weaknesses and so on.
      Sep 2, 2017
  • LinkedIn / Other
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    Bird in the hand. If you squeeze to hard you kill it. Focus on being you, outside of the code. Relax and listen, then speak. It sounds like you are coming across as desperate. You are educated and focused on what you want. Sometimes you need to relax and be confident without being egocentric or overzealous. The byproduct of being yourself will be the job offer you are looking for.
    Sep 1, 2017 0
  • Microsoft Vnskwlw
    Your dream is wrong. You should dream to work at Microsoft.
    Sep 1, 2017 5
    • Charles Schwab / Eng
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      [actually laughed out loud at the comment]
      Sep 1, 2017
    • Charles Schwab / Eng
      HoloKnight

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      But, really. Google and Facebook don't know how to roll with mixed reality like Microsoft.
      Sep 1, 2017
    • Microsoft CodeMonkeh
      Hey now, Microsoft has some really good teams. Some really shitty ones too unfortunately!
      Sep 2, 2017
    • Charles Schwab / Eng
      HoloKnight

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      Oh dang, my first post was poorly written. I meant that I laughed at the phrasing, "your dream is wrong", lol. Microsoft is great. Visual Studio is my jam.
      Sep 2, 2017
    • Accenture / Eng
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      I can smell your brown nose from here!
      Sep 2, 2017
  • Google dcBA24
    You are just like many people around: oh I really want to get into Google/FB, but I don't want to work much for it, and, in the end, I don't know why I failed at the interviews so f**k them.
    If your dream cannot make you work hard on those coding problems, then it's not a dream.
    Sep 6, 2017 3
    • Google dcBA24
      BTW, phone interviews are easy, at least for Google. If you failed twice, I really doubt you "understand all basics of algo and ds".
      Sep 6, 2017
    • Cisco +nt-ispklm
      It depends; I did a dp/backtracing on phone interview with google. — a variant of dialing a random phone number by not leaving your finger and going sideways, up down, or diagonally. — that, I will at least call “moderate”.
      Sep 7, 2017
    • Uber ZombieZoo
      That's exactly why this is all total bs. How the hell does this reveal what kind of a coder one is and how it helps at work?
      Sep 8, 2017
  • Citibank trench
    Motivated but dont work for it? Sounds like you want the prize but without having to work for it. You come across as lazy and entitled. I'd look into why psychologically you're not ready to do the hard work to get into these companies. Id also look as to why deep down you are so obsessed. Maybe some image issues? Wanna bask in the prestige of these companies and feel better than your friends?
    Sep 1, 2017 0

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