Manager is stressing me out in #1 best work place

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chuck$

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Oct 4 26 Comments

Joined cisco ~6 months ago and Manager joined 10 months ago.

I am the senior technical engineer and this org is not technical and depend a lot on 3rd party vendors.
when joined the state of affairs are disarray and no clear goals and very shortsighted like they don't know what happens next quarter !

Manager was acting like jerk and changing tasks and deadlines every other day and confusing whole team could not able to deliver any thing in last 3 months as a whole. When I raised my voice in scrum meetings that the direction and goals are confusing and are changing every day, he started assigning tasks and forcing short deadlines and sending 1:1 emails that I was not meeting his expectations every week. I am shocked that some of the tasks are not even discussed not even part of the current quarter.

He gave me bad rating and told me I did not meet his expectations with sarcastic smile.

all these interactions and targeted blaming and complaints are making me stressed out a lot.

Spoke about his behavior to the director few times after that his behaviour became worse and finger-pointing.

Now, he is complaining that I was rude and disrespectful to the manager. that was part of my low performance rating.

I am running out of options. His intention was clearly to sabotage my. career and thorough under the bus for his faults.

I no longer want to work for this insecure manager, but as per HR, I have to be in the hiring team for 10 months before I request transfer. if i leave, i have to pay back prorated 20k sign on.

any advice is appreciated . sorry for my long email.

Manager and I are on same grade with similar TC 250k

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TOP 26 Comments
  • Facebook Pack-Man
    Who said Cisco is #1 place to work?
    Oct 4 5
  • Riverbed Technology tETj16
    HR is Not your friend. Dont make that mistake, dont share your motives or potential moves. Director may not be your friend too. Find someone on higher position that likes you, even on different department. Network, make friends, Dont bad mouth your manager. When the time comes, an opportunity comes up - leave before he puts you on PIP
    Oct 4 0
  • Pacific Life Corporation bmQt44
    Try to make things right with your manager. Ask to meet with him, tell him you want to start over with him, and do what he says. Once your time is up you can try to transfer to another area. Or, maybe things will work out with him... or he will transfer. Do not bash him to his boss, or to HR. Neither is on your side, and both will repeat everything you say to them back to him. This is how HR works. Try to make it work until you can find another way out. And next time, don’t challenge your manager in front of your team; speak to them one on one of you have issues.
    Oct 4 1
    • Juniper democracy
      An apology would have been the best card to play. Unfortunately OP already played the nuclear option by doing an end run around to the boss’s boss and creating a situation for the group. There’s no coming back from this. Corporations are major pussies. Managers and HR only care that nobody rocks the boat. Regardless of justice they swiftly act to cut out the cancer for damage control. When there a situation in the group the managers can potentially get in trouble themselves and that’s a risk they would like to quickly mitigate by getting rid of the “troublemaker.” Think Carrie Lam and her protester problem.
      Oct 4
  • New XptM28
    You need to start looking for another job right *now.*
    Oct 4 0
  • Adobe Pzqu13
    When budget cuts come , manager try to do this.. either to save himself or his favorites. Motive of doing this is to find soft target in the team, who if pressed on react in a way to make managers life easier. I survived that battle with my manager. Here what I did differently: 1) On provocation, I never said anything to my manager . Just smiled. 2) Everything documented. Never started coding without sharing timelines with my manager and asked him to approve timelines.
    3) If he asks for unrealistic deliverables. Meet with some other teams who did similar work. Understand how long it took them. And justify. 4) Keep everything documented
    Oct 4 3
    • Uber sugarmama
      You could do all this, but he still can through you under the bus
      Oct 4
    • Adobe Pzqu13
      That's true.. but this way at least you know you did your best.. and move on they can't value you
      Oct 4
    • Juniper democracy
      I agree with the documentation strategy as a viable one. When you have documented evidence of unreasonable action it’s harder to get thrown under the bus. Now you have solid evidence that can be used for a discrimination lawsuit. Even if there’s no discrimination you have strong leverage against the company. They would rather not antagonize you further. As I mentioned companies are pussies. I once had an engineer who refused to do shit and sometimes didn’t even show up for work. It took 5 years for me to get him fired. The VP, HR and everyone knew he was worthless. However he had leverage and everyone was afraid of litigation so it was easier just to keep him around. I was told point blank that he was untouchable.
      Oct 4
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    • Oracle Sockets
      You do know you can edit the original post?
      Oct 4
    • Splunk dhhshdhd
      you still need to document everything and “take the initiative” to follow up with your manager. Basically you need to build a detailed and documented case against any termination, even HR is not your friend. But cisco cares about their image and any potential lawsuit enforceable or not depending the state you work in.
      Of course you still have to find another job quick
      Oct 4
  • Just do whatever the fuck he wants you to do and act how he wants you to act. Make him happy with you.

    Then as soon as you hit the 10 months or whatever bounce the fuck out.
    Oct 5 0
  • Juniper democracy
    He’s basically placed you on an unofficial PIP. I’ve seen it done many times and have even been forced to assist someone with this by reinforcing impossible tasks on someone that needed to be driven out. If you escalate your manager’s manager will almost always be against you because their working relationship needs to be protected. HR won’t help because they work for the company to defend against litigation (ie you). You can’t transfer because your manager will ensure that it’s blocked. Under the table retribution is very real when you piss off some unprofessional managers.
    Oct 4 0
  • Oracle Sockets
    Yer facked. Looks like it is now personal. He will try to sabatoge you transfer.

    Gotta bail dude
    Oct 4 0
  • Cisco
    chuck$

    Cisco

    BIO
    Cloud dev ops
    chuck$more
    OP
    Well, that means employees are at th disposal of managers? Does employee have no right to voice their side of story?
    Oct 4 2
    • KAYAK may5/3
      It’s a trap.
      Oct 4
    • A friend of mine has the belief that it's his job to speak up when injustice is done. He never stays at a place for more than two years because he never gets his contracts renewed.

      Managers are placed in their position because they have a stronger alliance with someone higher up the food chain. That alliance is stronger than the one you have with upper management. 99 out of 100 times you won't win a flight with your direct supervisor. Sorry, but it's life.
      Oct 4
  • Uber / Eng fujgvceu5
    Start emailing recruiters
    Oct 6 0
  • Adobe Pzqu13
    Meet with different teams, expose his technical understanding. If he is giving unreasonable timelines , that means he knows nothing
    Oct 5 0
  • Okta Ironman14
    Your career and peace of mind are more expensive than 20k.
    Oct 4 0
  • KAYAK may5/3
    I am sorry to hear this, but it seems you are getting fired
    Oct 4 0

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