Microsoft vs Uber new grad offer

Uber / Eng anyn1
Apr 4, 2018 77 Comments

Got an offer from SharePoint team in Microsoft. Any thoughts on the team and the work?

I interned at Uber and have an offer from them too . Which would be better? Uber or Microsoft?

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  • Amazon zubaoumpa
    Uber, still very nimble and quick mlving and steep learning curve for new grad
    Apr 4, 2018 13
    • Uber lamJ33
      Not true at all, do a little research into how the Taxi industry has operated for the last 90 years and then tell me which is better for drivers
      Apr 5, 2018
    • New hdSt7l
      Driving for Uber is fundamentally the same as driving for a taxi company except you are liable for everything and have no employee protections. I'm not sure how that is an improvement.
      Apr 5, 2018
    • Google can talk
      Truth is both Uber and Taxi unions are bad for the drivers (both in different ways)
      Apr 5, 2018
    • New / Eng
      jesus.cpp

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      jesus.cppmore
      Uber is not about helping drivers. It is about getting rid of driver.
      Apr 5, 2018
    • Microsoft gobirds69
      Dude you work in tech, half of us are trying to replace some job or another. There used to be people who made spreadsheets on paper, now we have Excel. Getting rid of a job isn't necessarily a bad thing in the long term if it brings some consumer surplus.
      Apr 5, 2018
    • Uber CoolStory
      Good points y’all. Similar things could be said for Spotify, Amazon, Facebook, Google, Apple, and other companies that are disrupters. They took away jobs from music distributors, Wal-Mart, Toys r Us, bookstores, BestBuy, and Dundee Mifflin. Such is life with industrialization and globalization.

      Uber on the other hand, gives more people an option. Drivers could make money on the platform (or work at other low skill labor jobs with strict time schedule), and riders could get home safely and reliably. That’s a good place to start. Of course we’d like you to help make it better.
      Apr 5, 2018
    • New / Eng
      jesus.cpp

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      jesus.cppmore
      TK, in a rare moment of candor, made it clear that getting rid of drivers are a core to the economic model of Uber.

      That’s what you are joining Uber to accomplish. It’s not a good or bad thing. But let’s just be honest about the game.
      Apr 5, 2018
    • Google can talk
      @CoolStory : "They took away jobs from ...." And that's just Amazon. 😂
      Apr 5, 2018
    • Uber YbWL84
      Getting rid of drivers wasn't Uber's original endgame. It's what we need & want to do to survive.
      Apr 6, 2018
    • New hdSt7l
      Have to first stop getting rid of pedestrians.
      Apr 6, 2018
  • Microsoft Youdoyou
    Uber. Worked on SharePoint, I think the learning opportunities are limited. Great if you want to rest and vest. That being said, if you are good they do recognize that and could be fast promos.

    Also it's a really conversation killer when you tell someone you work on SharePoint.
    Apr 4, 2018 2
    • New / Eng
      jesus.cpp

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      jesus.cppmore
      Sharepoint makes more in profit in a day than Uber has made since its founding!
      Apr 5, 2018
    • Pinterest
      mkto

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      mktomore
      And that has zero effect on a new grad's compensation or growth
      Apr 29, 2018
  • Uber Papapa
    Is it really a question? Listen kid, I work in Uber Seattle, and there are Microsoft people hats in hand waiting at our lobby every freaking day to be interviewed. My calendar is full of them, so much so I have to decline a lot. And I have yet to know anyone from us jumped to Microsoft willingly.
    Apr 5, 2018 3
    • Microsoft O|||||||O
      Well obviously since there's 50 000 people working at Microsoft in the Seattle area. Every single tech company in the area (regardless of how good the company is) will be interviewing ex Microsoft employees pretty often. One of the main reason so many tech companies are opening offices in Seattle is because there's so many tech employees to poach from MS and AMZN.
      Apr 5, 2018
    • Uber Papapa
      Problem is, there are at least 5x more Microsoft people than Amazon interviewing with us, it says something about the company
      Apr 5, 2018
    • Microsoft O|||||||O
      Well Microsoft have had 50 000 employees for more than 20 years. Lot of people have been at a Microsoft for many years and are ready to jump. Amazon is relatively young and are growing fast (not many employees with more than 2 years). I interview people from Amazon all the time in my team. It's by far the company we get the most interviews from (which is obvious, since there's a lot of Amazon employees in Seattle).
      Apr 5, 2018
  • Apple donaldrump
    I don’t have insight into either, but I’m a little surprised everyone is saying uber. Didn’t uber raise a shitload of money from shady sources at a ridiculous valuation? My initial instinct is that when they ipo, their stock will be shorted into the ground and your 100k RSUs will be worth more like 30k. 72B seems a little insane to me, but I’m not an expert in this market. Can someone explain why he should choose uber?
    Apr 5, 2018 6
    • Uber CoolStory
      Because...we get free Uber credits :D? The things you mentioned are pretty confusing, and I don’t pretend to understand how it works, let alone having a strong opinion. I just know rides, eats, and freight are doing fine ;)
      Apr 5, 2018
    • New hdSt7l
      The credits given to new employees are less than $150 pm.. so like 10 rides. Great.
      Apr 5, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng
      Hooliganss

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      Hooliganssmore
      Just about any team at Uber would be more interesting than SharePoint.
      Apr 5, 2018
    • Uber IMHungry
      The credits Uber employees get vary on location.
      Apr 6, 2018
    • New hdSt7l
      That was for SF...
      Apr 6, 2018
    • BrightFunnel Mlldffg
      Lol Sharepoint. Would show tremendously poor judgment to take that over Uber. Different if some reasonable team. But that is career suicide.
      May 16, 2018
  • Uber knbguiut
    TK would have rescinded your offer for asking this question
    Apr 5, 2018 1
    • New / Ops
      ODIu56

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      ODIu56more
      Too bad hes fired for being a shitty person
      Apr 12, 2018
  • Amazon / Eng Foods
    Here’s a maybe helpful piece of information: I’m a millennial working in Seattle doing software engineering and I don’t know wtf SharePoint is
    Apr 5, 2018 2
    • Microsoft mOTy75
      Who cares if you don't know what it is? There are a million pieces of tech out there I'm not familiar with. Doesn't mean they are not great products or they wouldn't be fun to work on.
      Apr 5, 2018
    • Microsoft wololoooo
      Sharepoint is not a great product and is definitely not fun to work on. Almost any tech would be more enjoyable.
      Apr 5, 2018
  • Microsoft fjdjdj
    You do not want to be associated with uber, trust me. Whether its fair or not, people are blacklisting their employees.
    Apr 7, 2018 8
    • Uber knbguiut
      🤪 (multiple offers from F and Netflix)
      Apr 7, 2018
    • Uber knight
      blacklisting? That’s your fake news
      Apr 7, 2018
    • Microsoft fjdjdj
      Stick your head in the sand all you want. I know hiring managers who won't touch anyone from Uber. It's clear that your workplace culture from the top to bottom is toxic and chauvinist
      Apr 7, 2018
    • Uber knbguiut
      sorry that you got rejected on a TPS.
      Apr 7, 2018
    • Uber knight
      apparently it’s the personal thought from that hiring manager. I will not make that bias if I want to hire talented eng from industry. And I believe good teams and good managers have their judgement and are open minded.
      Apr 7, 2018
    • Microsoft fjdjdj
      Agreed. I don't think it's fair to condemn all Uber employees. If I was HM I would not do it.

      I don't know what a TPS is and I've never applied to Uber. You guys don't do anything in my specialty
      Apr 7, 2018
    • Uber / Eng shANq80
      fjdjdj feel free to blacklist me 😅 love
      Apr 8, 2018
    • Uber Mashburn
      I would kill to get blacklisted from Microsoft so I wouldn’t be spammed with emails from your subpar recruiters.
      Apr 8, 2018
  • Microsoft jzRH51
    Congrats! I think you'll learn more at Uber currently. Uber is a bit of a unique company right now; it's not a startup in terms of size or business diversity, but it is in terms of being in a growth stage. A lot of what you'll work on would presumably be building new things, using modern software development techniques. You'll learn a lot from that. At Microsoft, you will get fewer opportunities to do that, especially on SharePoint.

    Other parts of Microsoft have changed quite a bit (like Azure or Visual Studio), so you could eventually switch to a different team. However, at Microsoft, they will want to interview you again when you switch, so you might as well go to Uber, learn and explore, and then go to Microsoft later if you really want to. Don't worry, if you got the offer this time, you'll get it again in the future.

    There are other factors to consider, though. What are you looking for?
    Apr 5, 2018 4
    • Microsoft / Eng corpcult
      There will always be openings at MSFT when OP is actually ready or is able to get an offer from the right team. The company is enormous and will continue to change over the years.

      That said, I did do the opposite. Joined MSFT in a mediocre team and am now joining a more technically interesting team. I didn't have a competing offer, largely because I was relocated I wasn't interviewing elsewhere at the time.

      Given the choice though, knowing what I know now, I'd take Uber in a heartbeat. Pick up skills there for a few years and develop myself. Return to MSFT later on and join a team where I'd be taken seriously from the get go.
      Apr 5, 2018
    • Microsoft jzRH51
      Yeah, I agree with corpcult and I did something similar. Given what I know now, I would pick Uber. Wait for Microsoft to evolve (and it really is evolving), then come in later if you still feel like it. If you didn't have the Uber offer, Microsoft is still an awesome place to work! But you have other opportunities right now that are better for a new grad.
      Apr 5, 2018
    • Uber / Eng anyn1
      OP
      I'm looking for good work and good compensation(as I have an education loan) .

      Uber is giving a lot of paper money which, as of now, doesn't count much. Microsoft is giving good amount of shares and joining bonus.

      Work-wise, Uber was very good (but not sure if I'll be assigned to same team).
      Apr 5, 2018
    • Microsoft jzRH51
      Can you provide the figures? How big is the difference in cash, and what does the total compensation look like? Also, where are the positions located?

      Without numbers, it's hard to say for sure, but my guess is that it's still better to take the Uber offer. Their business is going through some financial rockiness, but they probably will recover. If they're offering you stock options and if the strike price is too high, then the options may not be worth anything. But in that case, the experience and growth opportunity could be worth the lower compensation.
      Apr 5, 2018
  • Uber Uncffvvb
    I am a hiring manager at Uber. I think the answer depends on your risk appetite. Uber is still chaotic and risky. Microsoft on the other hand is mature, stable and you know the cash you are getting. If you are good, Uber will take you anytime. We hire a lot from Microsoft so don’t worry. Personally, I like to be in a stable company for the first couple years and then will join pre-ipo company.
    Apr 6, 2018 0
  • Microsoft / Eng Lotad
    Microsoft, you can move around the company if you get bored of your gig.
    Apr 5, 2018 0
  • Microsoft
    yMcg47

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    yMcg47more
    Sharepoint is a joke. Go Uber or continue interviewing
    Apr 5, 2018 0
  • Microsoft Shinji
    Didn't uber had the whole thing about toxic environment and people stepping over others culture ?
    Apr 5, 2018 4
    • Microsoft
      yMcg47

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      yMcg47more
      And msft doesn’t?
      Apr 5, 2018
    • Microsoft Shinji
      Not at the scale of being in all the news, 20 people fired, CEO gone, etc.
      Apr 5, 2018
    • Microsoft Shinji
      One of my grad classes literraly had a whole discussion on how uber violated the ethics and integrity of their people lol
      Apr 5, 2018
    • Uber knight
      Collaboration is one of the culture norms now
      Apr 5, 2018
  • If you want exposure to latest tech in fast paced environment working on product that is used by millions of people around the globe daily then Uber.

    However if you’re one of those millennial snow flakes who has some moral internal dilemma every time there is a negative report about Uber or some social justice warrior go to sharepoint. Their product affects no one negatively, it’s boring, old and you can comfort yourself daily knowing that no one cares about what you do for work while sipping your chi tai mocha latte at Starbucks.
    Apr 5, 2018 1
    • To be fair to old software, SharePoint was terrible when it was new.
      Apr 5, 2018
  • Airbnb / Eng pwjdb
    Uber
    Apr 5, 2018 0
  • Airbnb Amds46
    Of course Uber
    Apr 5, 2018 0
  • Apple / Eng
    Bad guy

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    Bad guymore
    I agree that Uber would be better compare to share point. But again, why Uber ppl are talking like they are the god ? Go & fuck yourself better than killing pedestrians.
    Apr 8, 2018 1
    • Microsoft fjdjdj
      They live up to reputation.
      Apr 8, 2018
  • Honeywell HcMr73
    In previous organization I used sharedpoint. It’s one of the most hated application since peoplesoft. I would judge you if you say you are working in sharepoint.
    Apr 12, 2018 0
  • Lyft Spagaro
    Even if you're not that big of an uber fan, how could you ever consider SharePoint?
    Apr 5, 2018 0
  • SharePoint? 🤮
    Apr 5, 2018 0
  • CareerBuilder AgnewsHead
    Which one pays more? MSFT RSUs might actually end up being worth more in 5 years at this point.
    Apr 5, 2018 0
  • Amazon / Eng
    Hooliganss

    Amazon Eng

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    Hooliganssmore
    Uber
    Apr 5, 2018 0
  • Microsoft mOTy75
    Nice thing about MS is that there are a ton of opportunities and good engineering problems to solve all over the place.
    Apr 5, 2018 0
  • Microsoft / Eng corpcult
    Total no brainer. Uber will give you much better experience of the product. Yeah they re in hot water, but the product development experience is much more significant than SharePoint.
    Apr 5, 2018 0
  • New / Eng
    diwj

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    diwjmore
    Uber
    Apr 5, 2018 0
  • Twitter / Eng CGXr42
    Uber
    Apr 5, 2018 0
  • Uber Elevate
    Here is my assessment:
    - engineering quality and maturity: Microsoft wins
    - speed of execution: Uber wins
    - breadth of product/ability to move to new domains: Microsoft wins
    - exposure to customers: Uber Wins
    - personal impact: Uber Wins
    - money: Uber wins long term
    - reputation outside of west coast: Microsoft wins
    - reputation within tech: Uber wins

    Take Uber! :)
    Apr 5, 2018 2
    • Chegg / Eng Britax
      Uber wins money? Heck no. Sure, just like buying a lottery ticket, there is some small probability of a big exit. But Waymo is building 20,000 driverless cars that will do 1 million rides a day, and they're coming on 2 years. How many do Uber and Lyft do in total? The writing is on the wall. To be fair, work at Uber will be likely more interesting than SharePoint - just keep in mind your RSUs are most likely worthless.
      Apr 5, 2018
    • Uber Elevate
      Lol ... 1 million
      Apr 5, 2018
  • was in the same boat. uber was the obvious choice but msft's offer was surprisingly much higher. uber still ended up being the better option, and the comp became comparable after an early promo. optimize for career velocity early on
    Apr 5, 2018 1
    • Msft (at least SharePoint, anyway) was probably higher for the same reason that I would have to be paid a fortune to be a janitor: it's a waste of time and ability.
      Apr 5, 2018
  • Uber ubz
    Might just want to ask yourself the question of which product excites you more? Obviously slightly biased -- but spent my early days as a SharePoint developer and was not a fan
    Apr 5, 2018 0
  • Uber knight
    Definitely Uber in this choice
    Apr 5, 2018 0

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