My company won’t hire hr

Undisclosed / Eng Vsesmq91
Mar 29, 2018 47 Comments

There are big culture problems and several sexual harassment complaints at my company but they refuse to hire hr. From many of the posts on here it seems like no one trusts hr but this seems like case where the presence of hr would be a good thing. Am I wrong to think the reluctance to hire hr is concerning?

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  • Oscar / Eng
    dumb|dumb

    Oscar Eng

    BIO
    Fuck you, but wats up bro.
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    HR always gets blamed. Watch The Office. Now, I am aware of really bad HR department (yikes, Uber), but I also have really good first-hand experience with my ex-employer and I think my current employer’s HR department is pretty good so far. HR is usually made up of several functional teams (recruitment, benefits, actual HR).

    Your company’s refusal to hire HR is a cultural issue and definitely a poor leadership. First, as the company continues to grow, the company needs other professionals to help running day-to-day operation. Your boss can’t manage everything and if he/she does, gtfo this company as quickly as you can. If leadership refuses to address sexual harassment. Gtfo asap! Sexual harassment should be taken very seriously. The way to deal with complaints should be : manager, hr, executives, whistle blowing. If your manager is not trustworthy, go to HR. If HR and executives are indifferent and even threatening you, go public. If I ever run a company, I will have my email available to my employees to report shit to me if they don’t feel safe. I would even welcome them file police report.

    Executives should always emphasize values and actually mean to execute values. If HR can’t do shit, either the HR leadership sucks ass, or the company as a whole sucks ass. Actually, the executives are a bunch of losers, because they refuse to give HR the proper trust and importance in the company.
    Mar 29, 2018 13
    • Databricks GKoY48
      @rbRM30 you just got hr again? Why did they get rid of it in the first place? I’d be very careful about whatever you tell them. Their job is to protect the company. Just remember that.
      Apr 1, 2018
    • Lyft 0vU8c6
      @GKoY48 a lot of people bash HR on here, but i actually had really good experiences when i needed to go to hr. It's a step in the right direction at least right?
      Apr 2, 2018
    • BetterWorks bVOJOW
      There are people who are good and bad in any profession. If you are doing it right, you are people-centered and not focused on just the company.
      Apr 2, 2018
    • Gusto aMjf0E
      @rbRM30 how long were you without HR? It's out of the ordinary that you would get rid of HR as the company gets larger. Were the sexual harassment claims reported while you originally had HR?
      Apr 2, 2018
    • Gusto aMjf0E
      Wow...I don't envy you.
      Apr 3, 2018
  • Lyft / Eng CRIOX816
    🏃‍♀️💨
    Mar 29, 2018 1
    • Google 0aDu68
      This is the most appropriate response to your post so far. ^
      Mar 29, 2018
  • Snapchat cSM3Rd
    If people have reported sexual harassment before and they still won't hire HR, can't they also be sued for negligence if it happens again since they didn't take reasonable precautions? I'm not an attorney but that sounds like negligence to me!
    Mar 29, 2018 2
    • Lyft / Eng CRIOX816
      PSA: Never get legal advice from Blind. No matter how good it sounds, ask an actual lawyer.
      Mar 29, 2018
    • Airbnb brBwUW
      Suing should be avoided at all costs, because it will certainly take its toll on you. If they are resisting hiring human resources, then that is an ENORMOUS red flag. Do you really want to work for a company that is not respecting your safety and wellbeing?
      Mar 29, 2018
  • Workday LRVPM8
    Are you at a startup? If so, do investors know about this? I would be shocked if they know about the sexual harassment claims. Their money is on the line and I can't see them being ok with not having HR at the company if there are accusations of harassment from employees.
    Mar 29, 2018 5
    • Undisclosed / Eng Vsesmq91
      OP
      Ya at a startup and that makes sense. Didn’t even think of that. I’m going to bring this up to some coworkers.
      Mar 29, 2018
    • Return to Your Power 1username
      No kidding, they have their skin in the game and likely won't tolerate anything that could threaten that.
      Apr 1, 2018
    • Slack 3QVZ9A
      ^ These guys get it. Maybe you guys should hold off on filing police reports until you notify an investor? Like @LRVPM8 and @1username said: their money is on the line and if someone is not being a straight shooter with them and jeopardizing the investors' ability to see a return, then you can bet that they will force things to change.
      Apr 1, 2018
    • DoorDash zHucEA
      You can't grow and cash in if you have this going on at work. You might have short-term success, but it won't be sustained. Just look at what happened at Zenefits. You don't want to crash and burn like them.
      Apr 1, 2018
    • Workday LRVPM8
      Just to add onto what I previously said, everyone has a legal right to not be sexually harassed at work and it’s troubling that nothing has been done since you say you and your colleagues reported it because they are legally obligated to investigate each claim. Not doing so is a big legal no no.

      Another option you have is to report all this to the California Department of Fair Employment (if you are in California). You should also make sure to include that your employer hasn’t conducted an investigation into your claims or taken appropriate action if thats the case like you said. Here’s their info: https://www.dfeh.ca.gov/complaint-process/file-a-complaint/
      Apr 2, 2018
  • Undisclosed 🦄💸...
    Depends - how big is your company?
    Mar 29, 2018 3
    • Undisclosed / Eng Vsesmq91
      OP
      50 or so
      Mar 29, 2018
    • Uber / Eng Usnwn
      I thought you were going to say like 10 or 15 people. If you don’t have hr after people have reported sexual harassment with a company of that size then holy cow.
      Mar 29, 2018
    • Sephora / Other Farsali
      No excuse to not have hr with 50 people working there.
      Mar 29, 2018
  • Amazon StormyDani
    Yes it's concerning. Find another job.
    Mar 29, 2018 1
    • ADP / Mgmt
      Runner131

      ADP Mgmt

      BIO
      I call myself "Damage Control" as I turnaround poor performance of others and get results.
      Runner131more
      Love this user name, too funny for the moment.
      Mar 30, 2018
  • Zendesk Pes5s9
    Mar 29, 2018 1
    • Google i7x7RL
      And out them Blind!
      Mar 29, 2018
  • Just punish them with lawsuits. Then they’ll get HR.
    Mar 29, 2018 0
  • Blizzard ioaEVs
    Good luck with this. Sucks you gotta go throuhg this shite.
    Mar 30, 2018 0
  • Postmates / Design Jndnms
    I don’t understand the reasoning for not having hr with a company this size. Just seems shady.
    Mar 29, 2018 0
  • Lyft pq8sKL
    Even if your company does get HR, their lack of action to do so promptly demonstrates that whomever is in charge cannot be trusted at least when it comes to the safety of you and your co-workers. Have they mentioned why the hesitation? Actually it doesn't even matter if they have answered why. Actions speak louder than words and the bottom line is, that they didn't take appropriate action.
    Mar 29, 2018 0
  • Salesforce YRc5n7
    Just get out. If they aren't taking this issue seriously now, then they never will.
    Mar 29, 2018 0
  • Microsoft mtWcXV
    My guess is that all you girls complaining about sexual harassment are making it up and that's why your boss won't hire HR. A lot of women make this up. I support your boss.
    Apr 4, 2018 1
    • Workday LRVPM8
      Real classy. You realize that under 6% of complaints of sexual harassment are false, right?
      Apr 4, 2018
  • Databricks GKoY48
    Sorry to be a dick, but HR IS NOT YOUR FRIEND! You guys are better off without HR and just suing them, filing police reports, contacting the investors, or basically anything else other than having HR get involved. HR WILL pretend to care about your situation and get you to tell them everything and promise to keep it confidential. Then they will turn around and tell your bosses everything you say. That’s their job- TO PROTECT THE COMPANY. NOT to protect you. Just be careful what you wish for. Here’s some useful reading: https://www.teamblind.com/article/psa-hr-is-not-your-friend-uggzwee2
    Apr 1, 2018 1
    • Google n9INp1
      Everyone likes playing attorney on blind haha
      Apr 1, 2018
  • Glassdoor 2vuhv3
    Who do people report sexual harassment to now?
    Mar 29, 2018 1
    • Undisclosed / Eng Vsesmq91
      OP
      Don’t want to go into all that, but you can probably put it together. It has been incredibly hectic there the past few weeks with all this.
      Mar 29, 2018
  • Apple iwUJTQ
    You are wasting your time sticking around at a company like this. Listen to @CRIOX816 and make like a tree and leave.
    Mar 30, 2018 0
  • TomTom International rKPj35
    Lol. Yes. If they won’t hire an HR a person you should be concerned.
    Apr 27, 2018 0
  • Undisclosed / Eng Vsesmq91
    OP
    Wow thanks for all the responses.
    Mar 29, 2018 0