New Amazon SDE II - Tips & Tricks?

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Christian. Love Microsoft. High aspirations, low expectations.
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Dec 1, 2018 26 Comments

YOE 2.5
TC/yr of offer 290k

Obviously, I pushed them hard in negotiation. Expectations will be high, I can deal with that.

Wondering if anyone has insightful tips on how to exceed at Amazon? Useful internal sites, not well known benefits, ways to get help or resources that aren't obvious (e.g. Microsoft had a mentor list), culture tips, etc.

And I know people are going to say I'm lying. Feel free to PM me. I'll share my team, manager, and screenshot of offer letter for proof if it helps me get more context that could help.

Thanks in advance

Update 1 based on questions:
Other Offers:
Salesforce (I actually signed with them and reneged when Amazon came to that number)
Microsoft
Google (sort of, they want me to do another loop. I never told Amazon I had or hadn't got an offer, just that their process was taking longer than I preferred so I wanted to negotiate anyway - I ended up turning it down)

TC Breakdown (rounded numbers to avoid NDA, PM if interested in exact):
160k sal
200 rsu
180k bonus

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  • Amazon YFdu24
    Nope. Your TC does not determine your expectations. That's an awesome offer but expectations from a SDE2 is not much.
    Dec 1, 2018 3
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      Christian. Love Microsoft. High aspirations, low expectations.
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      Interesting. Not at all what I'd expect. Does that mean if I do well L6 could happen quickly?
      Dec 1, 2018
    • Amazon YFdu24
      The jump to L6 requires a lot of luck in terms of projects and building relationships. It requires anywhere from 2 years to never.
      Dec 1, 2018
    • Microsoft / Eng
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      Christian. Love Microsoft. High aspirations, low expectations.
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      Thanks for the help. Much appreciated
      Dec 1, 2018
  • Amazon DipShit
    290k with 2.5 years of experience, wow..
    Dec 1, 2018 10
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      Christian. Love Microsoft. High aspirations, low expectations.
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      OP
      Also worth noting that this Amazon team told me they had 10 open reqs (desperate for help) and I was the best candidate they've seen in months (desperation + want). So I had a ton of leverage.

      Ive described this elsewhere but I did. I got onsite at FB but they deferred it until January so I bailed. Google wanted me to do a second loop for L4 to compete with Amazon but I really wasn't feeling Google vs Salesforce, I liked Salesforce a lot. But Amazon just came outta nowhere after I had signed with this so I took it
      Dec 1, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng kwq7812
      That isn't a forest of red flags to you?
      Dec 1, 2018
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      Christian. Love Microsoft. High aspirations, low expectations.
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      OP
      Oh it is for sure. I had already signed with Salesforce... But I can't afford to pass up 290k per year. It really was the number I just couldn't refuse
      Dec 1, 2018
    • Capital One / Eng desu
      Can you explain the red flags?
      Is it that the team seems to have trouble getting people to join?
      Dec 1, 2018
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      Christian. Love Microsoft. High aspirations, low expectations.
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      That or they're desperate for help, which means long hours and urgency to every task.
      Dec 1, 2018
  • Insureon / Other ShipJumper
    Awesome. Congrats! That's a really really good offer and negotiation. I think I would need to push them hard too. I got numbers from them (for SDE2, L5, Seattle) but looks like my offer can be significantly improved.

    OP- What's your location?
    Dec 1, 2018 1
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      Christian. Love Microsoft. High aspirations, low expectations.
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      I live in Redmond, it's for Seattle office
      Dec 1, 2018
  • Vertivco / Eng
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    Which data structures and how many of them did they ask you to code?
    Dec 1, 2018 3
    • Microsoft / Eng
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      Christian. Love Microsoft. High aspirations, low expectations.
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      All of them. Seriously. In one interview I had to code a priority queue because c# doesn't have one
      Dec 1, 2018
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      Vertivco Eng

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      So you had to code some tries and bipartite graphs?
      Dec 1, 2018
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      Christian. Love Microsoft. High aspirations, low expectations.
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      No to the latter
      Dec 1, 2018
  • Microsoft Buttters
    Do you have a PhD?
    Dec 1, 2018 1
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      Christian. Love Microsoft. High aspirations, low expectations.
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      Bachelor's
      Dec 1, 2018
  • Oracle 🔴vs🔷
    Wow congrats. Did amazon raise their L5 cap? I thought it maxed out at like $250 for Seattle.
    Jan 9 0
  • TC breakdown?
    Dec 1, 2018 0
  • Goldman Sachs pakalu
    Did you have any competing offers? Which?
    Dec 1, 2018 0