New Grad Compensation Evaluation

Microsoft fettywap
Nov 3 35 Comments

New Hire PM (L59):
Redmond, WA
Salary: 110
Bonus: 35
Stocks: 140/3.5 yrs
Relocation: 5.5
Bonus: 0-20% (target 10%)

Hi, I recently got this offer and I was wondering what your guys' thoughts are?
I would like to know specifically, if I can afford a nice 2bd/2ba with one other roommate in the Seattle/Capital Hill area.

any thoughts? should i negotiate more?

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TOP 35 Comments
  • Tesla cgjax
    Awesome offer but it also never hurts to negotiate if you want to
    Nov 3 7
    • Microsoft @lru_cach
      Strongly disagree if OP is returning intern and hasn't already countered. Both stock and signing can be slightly increased (150, 50) for returning interns. Any higher and it requires more approvals.
      Nov 3
    • Activision Blizzard FkdCompany
      As a hiring manager, I would be turned off by this behavior from a new grad. It would put a bad trade in my mouth for the candidate going forward.
      Nov 3
    • Microsoft @lru_cach
      Good thing OP isn't a returning intern at Activision Blizzard, then. Microsoft even offers L60 to some returning interns (basically a promo for 3mo of work) so they clearly don't value it as "ZERO experience".
      Nov 3
    • Activision Blizzard FkdCompany
      Fair enough. You being at MS would certainly know better than I would since I'm not there. Best of luck to OP then!
      Nov 3
    • Microsoft fettywap
      OP
      @activision and @lru_cach, thank you for both of your inputs. I will keep them both in mind but leaning towards not negotiating because it seems like a solid offer already :)
      Nov 3
  • Microsoft ScionTC
    Very competitive new grad comp. congrats
    Nov 3 0
  • Microsoft / Eng yum_cheese
    This is solid. Are you a returning intern? And yes, youโ€™ll be able to afford one pretty easily.
    Nov 3 10
    • Cisco
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      There are 2/2 600 sqft? I live 1/1 and is 770 wtf I never though a 2/2 would be smaller than mine
      Nov 3
    • Northrop Grumman / Eng Lambda2
      Is your rent not like 6k a month?? My STUDIO 320sqft was $2k
      Nov 3
    • Salesforce / Eng Honolulu๐ŸŒž
      @northrop Is this for Redmond?
      Nov 3
    • Salesforce / Eng Honolulu๐ŸŒž
      500 sq ft studio in Redmond is ~1650
      Nov 3
    • Northrop Grumman / Eng Lambda2
      No, I wish. Iโ€™m in DMV area and wow...
      Nov 3
  • Activision Blizzard FkdCompany
    This is a fantastic offer for a new grad, tbh. Take it immediately
    Nov 3 0
  • Masters or Bachelors? Also any work experience before your latest degree?
    Nov 3 3
    • Microsoft fettywap
      OP
      just bachelors, no work exp before other than internship with MS
      Nov 3
    • Banging offer then
      Nov 3
    • Microsoft fettywap
      OP
      thanks so much, i am very fortunate.
      Nov 3
  • Microsoft qYEO71
    With this kind of offer you don't need a roommate and can afford a nice penthouse apartment anywhere in the area
    Nov 3 1
    • Microsoft / Data _john_doe
      Dont fill young brains with your lies and empty dreams. It expensive as fuck here. But yeah you will be fine no worries.
      Nov 3
  • Microsoft pgxl62
    Push for 200k stocks
    Nov 4 2
    • Microsoft fettywap
      OP
      I donโ€™t think that even possible for level 59 :/
      Nov 5
    • Microsoft pgxl62
      If you're in the university pipeline then it's possible.
      Nov 5
  • Snapchat hippbutrr
    lol they pay more to L59 new grads than sde2
    Nov 3 2
    • Microsoft fettywap
      OP
      wait really? This offer is higher than level 61?
      Nov 3
    • Snapchat hippbutrr
      Likely yes

      MS tends to pay more for fresh grads than for experienced professionals
      Nov 4
  • Microsoft HarleyQui
    Is 140k stock for all new hires this year?
    Nov 3 1
    • Microsoft fettywap
      OP
      no, most got 120, some got 70 I think
      Nov 4

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