Non-technical members of blind, what do you do?

Nov 26, 2018 311 Comments

I'm seeing mostly SWEs and data scientists on here. Would love to hear more stories from non-technical members. Job market insights, interviewing experiences and obviously TC if you're comfortable sharing that.

How did you get your current role? Do you like it? What sucks about your company, what do you love about it? How much demand do you think there is in the market for your skills?

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  • U.S. Dpt. of Veterans Affairs / Other 😃😄😃meh
    Nurse practitioner. TC 180. In the lowest paying healthcare system in the Bay Area. I stay because I feel like my healthcare system care more about the patient than other hospital systems.

    New registered nurses make 160-180k in private hospitals, and registered nurses with a few years of experience (2-5 yoe) make 180-240k in private hospitals. If they do overtime, I have heard of RNs earning close to 300k but those are the workaholic ones. Nurse practitioners make 200k+ in private hospitals. Market is hot and if you get into a state hospital, the pension plan is 70% of the pay. TC is all cash and no one really worries about job securities.

    This TC is mainly in the Bay Area though because of high cost of living. I have heard of people flying into SF to work a few weeks of the month and return to their home state to chill the rest of the time.
    Nov 26, 2018 13
    • Google demoapp
      What's the quality of life of the role though? Nursing seems like a shot in the dark in terms of getting a good role.
      Nov 26, 2018
    • Collective Health / Eng Bahbuh
      Holy shit congrats on being a nurse. Damn!
      Nov 27, 2018
    • Google Fagedabtit
      Do you know anything about east coast NPs pay? My wife is finishing her doctorate in a year or so and keeps telling me she’ll make 150k base to start in the greater ny area but I have a hard time believing that. She claimed the same and said if she gets a private practice job can easily get 200k as well.
      Nov 27, 2018
    • U.S. Dpt. of Veterans Affairs / Other 😃😄😃meh
      Quality of life is dependent on what you do. Most NPs work office hours and depending on your role, some might do 4 days a week with remote component and some do 8-4 M-F. There are NPs who do 12hr shifts so they have days off and can take vacation every month without using PTO.

      RNs work 8hr or 12hr shifts so depending on hospital and role so they can be working M-F or half of the week. If the hospital allows you to schedule when you work, as a RN you technically can have a vacation every month for a week.

      Quality of life is as flexible as you want it to be haha.
      Nov 27, 2018
    • U.S. Dpt. of Veterans Affairs / Other 😃😄😃meh
      East coast is a little funny. What kind of NP is she? Doctorate as in DNP or PhD? The DNP is pretty useless for clinical roles. But she can go into hospital admin with DNP and certain roles do pay that. And then she can climb up and make more.

      Since NY is also a high cost area, it might be plausible she will start around 150k. In the south east, they start around 100k and the south east is very very cheap to live. 100k in the southeast is equal to 180k in SF. Finding Np jobs in a good healthcare system as a new NP is also tricky in saturated markets. Hope she went to a good school with a good network.
      Nov 27, 2018
  • IBM
    chad.

    IBM

    PRE
    Blue Origin
    chad.more
    Sales. TC 370k
    I started out in engineering.
    Nov 26, 2018 11
    • EMC / Product sQBh08
      Killing it bro
      Nov 26, 2018
    • IBM
      chad.

      IBM

      PRE
      Blue Origin
      chad.more
      >10 yoe. I'm not an AE or a sales manager I'm more of a territory leader. I'm responsible for all clients in a given territory.
      Nov 26, 2018
    • Amazon TCT snoop
      Sales is just a numbers game and I didn't have the patience for it. Also I didn't like being rejected.
      Nov 26, 2018
    • Uber lol11
      Is there a leetcode for sales?
      Nov 26, 2018
    • A good CRM is the leetcode of sales
      Nov 27, 2018
  • Amazon / Mktg
    pkwD00

    Amazon Mktg

    PRE
    Microsoft
    pkwD00more
    I am responsible for arranging “female company” for execs coming in from out of town.
    Nov 26, 2018 10
    • New / Eng RhpJ71
      Mad men
      Nov 26, 2018
    • ADP / Mgmt
      Runner131

      ADP Mgmt

      BIO
      I call myself "Damage Control" as I turnaround poor performance of others and get results.
      Runner131more
      Shouldn't it be tits, TC, of gtfo for this one?
      Nov 26, 2018
    • Flagged by the community.

    • Amazon / Design Fruitless
      PkwD00 instead of participating in smut be the change
      Nov 27, 2018
    • Haha which group is this ?
      Nov 27, 2018
  • Amazon / Product xiwu58
    I am a PdM in Supply Chain... 10+ yrs of experience...my day job involves listening to SDEs about how the requirements are not clear.... and telling their managers how the only way to make them clearer is to write the code myself... night job is to occasionally read on blind about 1. how every SDE irrespective of their pay, YOE or general talent or skill set is the most awesome gift to humankind... and 2. how they are not being paid enough or how they don’t get the right perquisites like free food, toilet paper from Gucci and kitchen towels from Armani.... in my free time I handle a lesser diva...my two year old daughter
    Nov 26, 2018 2
    • New dUNA71
      "requirements are not detailed enough!" -> add details -> "requirements are too prescriptive, let us do our job!"
      Nov 27, 2018
    • Paychex / Eng Rnub16
      Killing it! Those Millennials...hahaha.
      Dec 9, 2018
  • Microsoft MMKy42
    According to the technical people of Blind, nothing.
    Nov 26, 2018 2
    • Microsoft / Product
      Brazuka

      Microsoft Product

      PRE
      Bain & Company
      Brazukamore
      Hahahaahshahahahahah
      Nov 26, 2018
    • Market Track pIxL65
      Too real
      Nov 26, 2018
  • New / HR
    andrewsauc

    New HR

    BIO
    Tech recruiter @indeed
    andrewsaucmore
    Here as a tech recruiter from indeed. I’m here in hopes of nabbing one of you guys!
    Nov 26, 2018 9
    • New / HR
      andrewsauc

      New HR

      BIO
      Tech recruiter @indeed
      andrewsaucmore
      @fruitless, I was @amazon for 2 years, design and tech stack is much wider than you might think. I think it’s just a matter of perspective. You could be siloed @amazon depending on the business unit or product you’re in as well. (I’ve actually used Blind to poach developers from one amazon group to another 😂). Anyways, I’d love to talk to any of you guys about 💸, perks, relo (Seattle, Bay Area, or Austin) or anything else you want.
      Nov 27, 2018
    • New / HR
      andrewsauc

      New HR

      BIO
      Tech recruiter @indeed
      andrewsaucmore
      @runner131 Absolutely.
      Nov 27, 2018
    • Amazon / Design Fruitless
      @andrewsauc I had an interview there and there are not really many positions available that are in alignment with a UX design lead working on a big product. Like I said they really want ground level people working on a small feature in a bubble. Not big thinkers for an entire product. That is literally what I was told.
      Nov 28, 2018
    • Amazon / Design Fruitless
      There are barely any principal designers and the UX Vp left. It needs get a tad more mature
      Nov 28, 2018
    • Flagged by the community.

  • BSA in finance and accounting domain. Base salary is 145k. Love the job as I get to work on erp and use accounting/finance skills to help accounting teams scale by delivering automated solutions.

    Ms in accounting and mba in finance from education perspective. 6yoe

    No complaints..
    Nov 26, 2018 8
    • Glassdoor Wikistix
      Cjeihfplfi - Do you have NetSuite experience???
      Nov 26, 2018
    • Nope not a PM.. I am a Business Systems Analyst in sf at uber hq..

      Wikistix nope unfortunately no, I am
      Primarily focused on Oracle 11i and R12..

      I believe netsuite is not that tough to learn but has a very niche market and preferred by startups..
      Nov 26, 2018
    • Glassdoor Wikistix
      We’re looking for an expert : (
      Nov 27, 2018
    • Amazon <‘><
      How many YOE?
      Nov 28, 2018
    • Glassdoor Wikistix
      <‘>< Uber or for our role? We’re looking for 5-7
      Nov 28, 2018
  • Boeing / Ops Airbus
    PM/scheduling with 3 yoe. TC is probably half of FAANG eng.. I think the job is okay but theres much more human interaction involved with nontech roles and its draining if you are introvert like myself. Demand for nontech role is pretty stable and at least for Boeing, you can jump into different business roles like supply chin, operation, finance, PM etc. But if I can go back, I would study computer science or related
    Nov 26, 2018 5
    • Move JUvY31
      What is scheduling?
      Nov 26, 2018
    • United Technologies rohr
      I believe scheduling is prioritizing work on the shop floor while considering factory capacity, supply chain performance, customer need, etc.
      Nov 26, 2018
    • Hitachi Vantara / Other vetera
      Sounds like project management not product
      Nov 26, 2018
    • Boeing / Ops Airbus
      Spot on UT guy
      Nov 26, 2018
    • Bloomberg / Eng idFR43
      Never too late. The amount of quality, free online courses these days is amazing - combined with a formal CS degree being worth less and less (in terms of getting the interview). I'm self taught and for a while I felt like it was a disadvantage, but I pick up new technologies quicker than those around me and I believe "learning to learn" is the most important skill.
      Nov 26, 2018
  • Facebook public2
    We rely on swe feeling superior so you won't get a lot of answers here. Might ruin the illusion.
    Nov 26, 2018 1
    • Facebook / Product Worldy
      Lol
      Nov 26, 2018
  • New / Mgmt
    Trisis

    New Mgmt

    PRE
    Palo Alto Networks, FireEye
    BIO
    Cybersecurity
    Trisismore
    I am a former tech sales guy who started and sold a few websites while slanging widgets and software and then decided to start a recruiting firm in a very niche area of cyber security. (Industrial Cybersecurity). I could go forever on job market insights, but feel free to PM me or ask any questions...

    As far as demand for my skills....well, my skills are pretty simple and the things we do well maybe aren't "skills" in the traditional sense. One we know our clients business and space better than most out there. We are true students of the space we work... Two, we don't focus on resume keywords or certs. Lastly, we fucking communicate. Good and bad news. Honestly.

    But other than that, I think we take a generally very proactive and transparent approach to talent acquisition in an extremely niche but booming part of Cybersecurity. We HUNT like hell but we spend the rest of our time actually talking to people instead of searching for keywords we like to see.

    As far as compensation, I will be a tad shy of $750k as Managing Partner and Founder, as I've been very fortunate to have earned the business of some "named account" clients most in here know, as well as some earlier stage companies who are killing it right now. Plus the space doesn't hurt not to mention so many absolutely terrible recruiters out there we get to replace.. : )

    But at the end of the day, I absolutely love my job. I humbly can say we've been blessed to have pick and choose who we partner with and for the time being it has worked out.
    Nov 26, 2018 6
    • Microsoft NotADick
      Are you hiring Trisis?!
      Nov 26, 2018
    • New / R&D 🌶️ 🌶️
      How much industrial cybersecurity guys make? What's typical background for these guys/gals?
      Nov 26, 2018
    • Wells Fargo qUyB01
      Do you help clients hire only engineers or folks from other specialties as well?
      Nov 26, 2018
    • New / Mgmt
      Trisis

      New Mgmt

      PRE
      Palo Alto Networks, FireEye
      BIO
      Cybersecurity
      Trisismore
      As far as what Industrial Cyber guys make, it really depends on the role. Were you asking from a technical, sales, leadership perspective?

      And the background is varied, but on the technical side I'd say someone with a solid understanding of networking in general. Routers, switches, firewalls etc. But really more LAN than WAN. Someone who can get on the command line but not a Linux admin level. Just basic stuff. Security piece is definitely important. Doing things like network segmentation, understanding IDS, and experience working with different tools like Wireshark, Splunk, Nessus, etc. Then thing like the ability to get into an individual packet is crucial as well. Basically if you were given a set of PCAPs and set of questions, can you figure them out.

      And finally the unicorn would be someone who has experience in an industrial environment, and especially someone who knows the different OT or ICS protocols. Oil and gas, electric utility, production or manufacturing, water, nuclear, etc.
      Nov 27, 2018
    • New / Mgmt
      Trisis

      New Mgmt

      PRE
      Palo Alto Networks, FireEye
      BIO
      Cybersecurity
      Trisismore
      And in regards to what our clients look for, we absolutely look at other folks other than engineers. The fact is this talent pool is so small and their is such a need, our clients have to train up to fill gaps.

      The ones with experience in security on the IT and OT side are, and I'm not exaggerating, commanding their own salaries right now. It's absolutely insane.

      So definitely a good time to get involved
      Nov 27, 2018
  • Facebook / Product BCG
    I studied business in college and went into consulting at bcg. Never took a coding class in my life but eventually grew interested in product management. I'm currently a pm at Facebook. I think if you have a business background and read Swipe to Unlock to learn technical concept fundamentals, a lot of jobs in product/marketing/strategy/m&a open up
    Nov 26, 2018 6
    • OpenDoor Dlinpu
      Also interested
      Nov 27, 2018
    • Facebook NunyaBizNe
      Agh nontechnical PMs with a consulting background are the worst
      Nov 27, 2018
    • OpenDoor Dlinpu
      Is it worse than a non-technical PM without a consulting background?
      Nov 27, 2018
    • Capital One / Product foXi81
      Yes. Without a consulting background they're humble about what they don't know. With it they know it all, especially when they don't.
      Nov 28, 2018
    • Cisco Unicorn11
      Technical PMs without a consulting background are the worst - they don’t get shit done and just goof around b*tching about bug fixes and ignoring anything related to go to market, strategy and monetization
      Dec 1, 2018
  • Capital One / Mgmt
    dbNw78

    Capital One Mgmt

    PRE
    Capital One
    dbNw78more
    Technical Program Manager (PMP, former SCRUM Master for shit government contracts). $160 TC, 12 YOE. Female because let’s be honest it matters.
    Nov 27, 2018 11
    • Microsoft MrsHyde
      If you have proof ("you know for a fact") then ask for a raise or sue because that's blatantly illegal. Put up or shut up. There is no wage gap
      Nov 27, 2018
    • Capital One / Mgmt
      dbNw78

      Capital One Mgmt

      PRE
      Capital One
      dbNw78more
      Thanks @MrsHyde, your comment was really helpful. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
      Nov 28, 2018
    • Salesforce CloudSurfr
      Hyde, the fact the fact that you're even recommending that she needs to ask for anything goes against your own arguement... truly 5 stars lol....
      Dec 2, 2018
    • Dell LUHV04
      Has PMP helped you with any jobs?
      Dec 3, 2018
    • Capital One / Mgmt
      dbNw78

      Capital One Mgmt

      PRE
      Capital One
      dbNw78more
      @LUHV04 it’s helped with every job - Landing them and process management. But tbh it’s easy to get stuck as a PM for too long if you don’t have a solid exit strategy.
      Dec 4, 2018
  • New XPkA13
    I am a 43-years old casino dealer. A 2-years experienced immigrant with a family. Bad English and so on. Trying my best to get ready to land to a software development position. Learning all of this stuff on my own. Found myself capable to resolve any difficult questions on leetcode sometimes reinventing principles of dynamic programming for example. Highly motivated but struggling out of all of this immigrantish stuff.
    Nov 27, 2018 3
    • LinkedIn / Eng gTBK55
      Fascinating. How did you find blind?
      Nov 27, 2018
    • New XPkA13
      Google play
      Nov 27, 2018
    • Nordstrom / Other freakum
      Best of luck to you 👍
      Nov 28, 2018
  • Google / Other why_oh_why
    Real Estate + Workplace. 20+ YOE. TC 400k.

    I love my job because (a) humans fascinate me, (b) I get to spend my time improving (hopefully) the environment in which we spend the majority of our waking hours, and (c) I have direct engagement with my users; every day is a UX study.
    Nov 26, 2018 3
    • Google sirme
      wait what is this role called? sounds interesting. you do real estate for Google or on the side?
      Nov 26, 2018
    • Google / Other why_oh_why
      Won't name the role, to protect anonymity. Google is my only gig, I'm in REWS.
      Nov 26, 2018
    • Google demoapp
      Would really love if you could do an AMA in the Google forum sometime!
      Nov 26, 2018
  • Amazon EOIA55
    They ask me what I do and who I do it for. When I die bury me inside the Gucci store.

    TC (YTD) 391
    Nov 26, 2018 2
    • Monster MGXE81
      But what do you want for your birthday?
      Nov 26, 2018
    • Amazon EOIA55
      One big booty ho
      Nov 28, 2018
  • Intel Look-up
    What about you OP?
    Nov 26, 2018 6
    • Genentech 🍀field
      Can you elaborate on “it's nearly impossible to find people who are good at design/UIUX who also understand abstract concepts and frameworks, stupidly hard to hire for this type of skillset.”?
      Nov 26, 2018
    • Sure -- people who are good at design are often not great at math -- they often don't understand how statistical or econometric models work with enough nuance to be able to design for products that incorporate them.
      Nov 26, 2018
    • New / Product
      dangnabbit

      New Product

      PRE
      Microsoft
      dangnabbitmore
      You’re so patient, OP. I think I love you. 😍
      Nov 26, 2018
    • Amazon thealpha
      I know many good designers. They’ll be furious!
      Nov 27, 2018
    • Yes, but they all already have excellent jobs! It's difficult to hire for this because everyone good is taken.
      Nov 27, 2018
  • Google anss
    Whats with all these non tech high salaries?
    Nov 27, 2018 5
    • Facebook NunyaBizNe
      Cost of living
      Nov 27, 2018
    • Extreme Networks quiet-time
      Sales gets you paid and sounds like business analytics is a solid path to making dough
      Nov 27, 2018
    • Facebook public2
      I left tech to make more money.
      Nov 27, 2018
    • Google / Other why_oh_why
      What's with all these tech folks who think their skill sets are the only ones that could possibly command a high TC?
      Nov 28, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng Plojyniggb
      Sales = money. If I’m bringing in millions in revenue each quarter, I better get a slice. Engineers on revenue generating projects have higher growth as well
      Nov 28, 2018
  • Sapient / Consultant
    smoooh

    Sapient Consultant

    PRE
    Booz Allen Hamilton, Ipsos
    smooohmore
    Digital strategy consultant. 9 yoe. TC $145k. Love the project-based aspect of consulting - always learning and taking on new challenges. Demand for digital strategy skillset is definitely on the rise. So many great tech plays out there but it’s lots of hammers in search of nails... too often people/companies are buying into hype instead of starting with a business problem that needs solving. If you’re a business-minded techie with decent interpersonal skills and drive to do some real critical thinking, it can be a very fulfilling career path.
    Nov 26, 2018 2
    • Wayfair addA30
      If I called myself a "techie" I'd probably jump out the highest window I could find.
      Nov 26, 2018
    • Amazon TCT snoop
      Sure, but you'd be paid better on your way down
      Nov 26, 2018
  • GE / Sales
    donkey1027

    GE Sales

    PRE
    Accenture, Schneider Electric, Startup Shell
    donkey1027more
    Sales exec (leader of people not the bullshit titles reps get). Made ~800 TC this year. OTE (on target) is 400k. Made about 550k the year before this.

    Engineering background (chemical). Work in industrial companies doing enterprise technology stuff.
    Nov 26, 2018 2
    • Samanage TheFuhrer
      Sounds like you’re in the meth lab business also. I did $950 TC the first quarter of this year.
      Nov 26, 2018
    • Microsoft NotADick
      How hard is it to become a sales manager in tech?
      Nov 26, 2018
  • New / Other
    Call Me.

    New Other

    BIO
    Turned my beeper on.
    Call Me.more
    Strategy. Yes that's a job.
    Nov 26, 2018 3
    • Amazon / Other Maddy2018
      Same here :$
      Nov 26, 2018
    • Amazon TCT snoop
      Isn't strategy what people say that can't actually deliver anything? What kind of strategy?
      Nov 26, 2018
    • New / Other
      Call Me.

      New Other

      BIO
      Turned my beeper on.
      Call Me.more
      Digital transformation...technology...trust me if you don't deliver nothing happens. Those strategists give us a bad name. They're always like: "I'm just here for the vision." I get my hands dirty.
      Nov 26, 2018

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