Noogler laptop pick

SpinDance / Eng okOu43
Aug 26, 2018 48 Comments

Starting at Google soon and have to pick my equipment.

The on boarding guide strongly pushes me to pick the Google Pixelbook, but I’m hesitant to pick that one for a few reasons:

1. Everyone else on the team I’m joining uses Mac or Windows, and I know how sometimes it’s a pain to ramp people up who have a completely different OS than the rest of the team.
2. I think my productivity will suffer with Pixelbook because I’ve never used one before. On the other hand, I’ve spent years doing development on Mac, so I have a good Mac workflow already.
3. I don’t know what kind of support Pixelbook has for dev work. Like can it run IntelliJ, Sublime, and other dev related tools? I don’t want to use a cloud based IDE. Can it compile C++? I just don’t know if it’s a good dev box and not to mention if it can run other programs like Camtasia which I use a lot to make demo videos of new features that I create for sprint reviews.
4. I asked the team manager about it and they said Pixelbook would be fine and it’s really up to me, but I don’t want to go against the grain from the very beginning of my time at Google.

Which would you pick and why?

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  • Google s89
    Laptop doesnt matter a lot. Take any laptop and Linux desktop. That's what most of the folks do. Laptops are just for meetings at least for more than 50% googlers.
    Having said that, u can pick Mac if u want
    Aug 26, 2018 9
    • Google / Eng BiggusD
      I use Chrome Remote Desktop even when sitting at my desk.
      Aug 26, 2018
    • LinkedIn / Eng -👁👁-
      How powerful are the Linux desktops?
      Aug 27, 2018
    • Google / Eng BiggusD
      6 core Xeon, 64 GB of RAM is the standard one.
      Aug 27, 2018
    • LinkedIn / Eng -👁👁-
      I’ll assume you meant 64gb 😂
      Aug 27, 2018
    • Google / Eng BiggusD
      Yes, updated
      Aug 27, 2018
  • Amazon / Eng Ncajfhaohz
    Just get a MacBook Pro . I wish I had problems like you!!
    Aug 26, 2018 0
  • New 36dba2
    Do engineers not use ide like intellij and coding is done on web ide?
    Aug 26, 2018 8
    • New 36dba2
      Oh got it. So you remotely access the desktop where you have an ide running. Makes sense.
      Aug 26, 2018
    • Google TC = 215K
      I think it depends on the companies tooling. I used vim for python at my last company, eclipse for Java before that, and now googles web ide for c++.

      I've tried out different options and chosen each one based on the utility based on the context.

      Thus, I would just suggest you try things out and figure out what works best for you. My coworker uses clion for c++ and I have never used intellije.

      I still recommend the pixelbook as it is super light and thin and you can still access your desktop to do all your dev work though.
      Aug 26, 2018
    • Google / Eng
      NADM63

      Google Eng

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      NADM63more
      Can't use IDE directly on the laptop because company policy prohibits putting source code on laptops.
      Aug 27, 2018
    • Google / Eng mad👩🏻‍🔬
      We have an internal web based IDE that I find works pretty well
      Aug 27, 2018
    • New / Eng
      bx44

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      bx44more
      In my current role we use vim/sublime for our C++. It initially sucked not having the IDE for autocomplete, documentation, etc.. but over time it actually improved my C/C++ by quite a bit.
      Apr 18
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    • Google / Eng BiggusD
      RAM matters. I was constantly paging disk when I had a MBP with only 16 GB of RAM because Chrome is a fucking hog.
      Aug 26, 2018
  • Hinge / Eng YIjR20
    Get the MacBook Pro, 2018 with 32GB of RAM. Keyboard issues are fixed and the extra memory is sweet when you need it.

    Pixelbook isn't capable of handling all development tasks.
    Aug 26, 2018 4
    • Amazon / Eng Ncajfhaohz
      We can only get the non TB MacBook Pros at Amazon :(
      Aug 26, 2018
    • Google TC = 215K
      You get a desktop with a xeon processor and 64GB of ram for development and you are not allowed to store source code on a laptop (it's technically not even stored on your desktop which is why our web ide is so good) so it's only really use is for meetings and to proxy to desktop which you can do through our awesome web ide/tools.
      Aug 26, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng Ncajfhaohz
      If it’s not on the cloud desktop where is it?
      Aug 27, 2018
    • Google TC = 215K
      Data centers.
      Aug 27, 2018
  • Google / Eng BiggusD
    I think the Dell 5520 is the best machine being offered right now. The MacBooks only have 16gb of RAM.
    Aug 26, 2018 4
    • Square / Eng dEwK60
      There are new MacBooks with 32GB now, though I have no idea if Google offers them or not.
      Aug 26, 2018
    • Google / Eng BiggusD
      No, they're not available yet. It'll be a couple months.

      Even then though, the 5520 is a better machine IMO. Especially with the thunderbolt dock they offer with it.
      Aug 26, 2018
    • Google vfd
      Why do you need 32GB of RAM? You're just using your laptop to ssh anyway
      Aug 27, 2018
    • Google / Eng BiggusD
      Constant paging because Chrome eats 16 GB if you have more than a handful of heavy tabs like we open all the time.
      Aug 27, 2018
  • New
    Strtp2Crp

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    Strtp2Crpmore
    I started last week. Picked pixelbook. Later, realized that: 1) 90% of engineers use MBP, 2) pixelbook is greatc, but really limits you. Already ordered an MBP as a replacement.
    Aug 26, 2018 1
    • SpinDance / Eng okOu43
      OP
      Perfect thanks for your perspective
      Aug 27, 2018
  • Google / Eng googler4
    Get a pixelbook, unless you're working mostly on an open source team.
    Aug 26, 2018 0
  • Google wrdrtf
    Most people in my team use mac too.
    Pick Mac, since most of your team uses that. Don't worry it's not a big deal and you can change within 3 weeks, no questions asked.
    Aug 26, 2018 0
  • Can anyone picking pixelbook change wl within 3 weeks.
    Aug 26, 2018 2
    • New
      Strtp2Crp

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      Strtp2Crpmore
      Yes. I did that.
      Aug 26, 2018
    • Thanks do they have 15 inch pixelbook?
      Aug 26, 2018
  • Google / Eng
    NADM63

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    NADM63more
    I've used both a Chromebook Pixel and a MacBook Pro. Get the latter, in a 13" variant. You'll be using Chrome Remote Desktop for coding anyway, but the Mac is a nicer UX and you can have 3rd party apps installed (e.g. password managers, etc).
    Aug 26, 2018 2
    • Google s89
      Just a curious question. Which password manager do u use. I remember someone telling in noogler orientation not to use password mgrs
      Aug 26, 2018
    • Google / Eng
      NADM63

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      NADM63more
      Dashlane. It's for personal use. My work account password, I remember. For work passwords there is an internal password manager (Valentine).
      Aug 26, 2018
  • Amazon lIllIIlIIl
    Wtf is spinDance? Lol
    Aug 26, 2018 2
    • Amazon D83!jak
      Came here to post the same :)
      Aug 26, 2018
    • SpinDance / Eng okOu43
      OP
      Ballet studio bro! It’s highly technical work
      Aug 26, 2018
  • Google 𓁻⅃𓁻
    Get the MBP. It costs double compared to the other laptops for a reason.
    Aug 26, 2018 0
  • Google TC = 215K
    I got the pixelbook and my teammates have started switching from macs to it too. It's super light and thin which is really nice carrying around and in your backpack.

    And as others have said, you barely use it as you do almost everything on your desktop.
    Aug 26, 2018 0
  • I picked the mbp for myself. Most folks who interviewed me had pixel book or some other laptop I didn’t recognize.
    Aug 26, 2018 0