Offer Evaluation

Northrop Grumman gbzcUNTu2
Aug 10 37 Comments

Google L3 ~220 TC
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135 Base
15% Bonus
270 Equity

Amazon SDE2 ~230 TC first 2 years, then ~215 TC years 3/4
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155 Base
70/50 Sign on for first two years
~150 Equity

Seems to me that Google would be the better long term choice based on what I’ve read here. My only concern is about what I’ve read about team matching and the possibility that I end up with nothing.

Current TC 90K/5 YOE

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TOP 37 Comments
  • Google Lаrry Page
    I recommend Google

    - Larry
    Aug 10 0
  • Cisco / Product U there
    Don’t, never consider Amazon if you have Google
    Aug 10 3
    • Amazon / Eng jNeo42
      Don’t never (meaning, do), or don’t ever (meaning, don’t)?
      Aug 10
    • Yahoo Genius
      I think they meant "Don't ever"
      Aug 10
    • Cisco / Product U there
      😺👍☝️
      Aug 11
  • Google / Eng revert_bak
    Just join Google
    Aug 10 0
  • Oracle / IT
    kp1857

    Oracle IT

    PRE
    Microsoft, Amazon, Goldman Sachs
    kp1857more
    I agree.. Google is better long term job
    Aug 10 0
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    • Google The Old Nite
      I would guess interview performance / resume. I'm sure they didn't choose L3 over L4.
      Aug 10
    • Northrop Grumman gbzcUNTu2
      OP
      Recruiter said my interview performance was great and that I was close to L4. I also assume it’s because I’m not coming from another tech company.
      Aug 10
    • Google topCon
      3 to 4 is pretty easy promo
      Aug 10
  • Google / Eng
    Shaktiman’

    Google Eng

    PRE
    Amazon
    Shaktiman’more
    I have worked at both Amazon and Google.

    You should join Amazon, it’s not good feeling to see senior engineers around you with same yoe, while you are leveled at same as college fresh out. You can apply in Google next year at higher level, no big deal.

    Having lower level will hurt your career in long term. Amazon and Google are not that different in reputation. If you are good enough to get into Google now, you can get in later as well.
    Aug 10 4
    • Google / Eng
      Shaktiman’

      Google Eng

      PRE
      Amazon
      Shaktiman’more
      Promo is no guarantee any place. I have seen it happen within a year, and also takes 3 years. In the same time you can get to sde3 in Amazon, and join as L5 in google, just saying.

      I would suggest to look at what you have now.
      Aug 10
    • Amazon / Eng Yolo!
      Are you saying SDE2 Google gets paid more than SDE3 Amazon? This is complete BS and untrue.
      Aug 10
    • Google topCon
      3 to 4 is easy. I've seen it done so many times in 1-2 years, especially with some with prior experience, like op.

      Please also consider refreshers that stack up and no TCT at Google.
      Aug 10
    • Amazon / Eng Yolo!
      It’s not L5, it’s T5.
      Aug 10
  • Microsoft / IT gandu
    That's not a choice at all ..
    Google ... Don't even think about Amazon ...
    Aug 10 0
  • Google topCon
    No brainer. Google.
    Aug 10 0
  • Google xrlI04
    Good offer for an L3 but I think with your YOE you should settle only for an L4 . Otherwise you'll end up doing a hell lot of grunt work
    Aug 10 0
  • Google / Eng
    weeeeeeeer

    Google Eng

    PRE
    Microsoft
    weeeeeeeermore
    I thought Google was doing team matching before giving the official offer with numbers. That's what the deal was for me last year.
    Aug 10 10
    • Google / Eng revert_bak
      Offer comes only after a team match
      Aug 10
    • Google / Eng
      weeeeeeeer

      Google Eng

      PRE
      Microsoft
      weeeeeeeermore
      But it sounds like OP doesn't get to do team matching until after accepting offer.
      Aug 10
    • Northrop Grumman gbzcUNTu2
      OP
      Doing team matching now. But recruiter already gave me unofficial offer break down.
      Aug 10
    • Northrop Grumman gbzcUNTu2
      OP
      *Shrug* Recruiter mentioned these numbers have already been approved made it seem like this is going to be the offer.
      Aug 10
    • Nutanix 1adja134
      You were likely prematched to some teams
      Aug 10
  • Veritas dogyear
    Did you already negotiate with google or is that pre negotiation?
    Aug 10 1
  • Microsoft S3CUR1TI3S
    Factor in state income taxes if its CA vs WA
    Aug 10 0
  • Microsoft S3CUR1TI3S
    Google.
    Aug 10 0
  • Google fGWF77
    Google, go to an area of fast growth if you want more of a startup feel, or a more established area if you want to rest&vest
    Aug 10 0
  • Google SdrPikachu
    That's a really good L3 offer by Google. Take it.
    Aug 10 0
  • Twitch mqFo65
    I would find out what team I was going to work on, as much as AMZN sucks depending on the team it could be better than Google
    Aug 10 0
  • Amazon damnsde3
    Google
    Aug 10 0