Offer evaluation Cruise or FB

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May 29, 2018 24 Comments

I work for a small startup that's not going anywhere.

I started interviewing and have two offers in hand..

FB: TC $290k. Will be joining their infra group- E4
Cruise: TC $320k Senior Software Engineer

Software Engineer
Experience: 8 years
Location: Bay area/SF

Heard lots of bad stuff about FB Infrastructure team.. such as thier long working hours..
FB do give out bonus and RSU refresher.. However I am not sure about Cruise..

How is Cruise's RSU refresher policy?

Not sure if I should join Cruise or FB..

If cruise also have generous RSU refresher policy then pay wise both will kinda be same(few thousand here and there doesn't matter). In that case joining Cruise is better considering they are still small enough to grow faster.. However there are few unknowns about Cruise.. such as RSU refresher policy, PSU vesting etc.. if Cruise doesn't change my pay for next 4 years then FB pay will be much higher.. in that case I would like to join FB..

It will be great if I can get insides from current cruise employees..

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  • Microsoft rc46veh5:#
    Personally, I would join Cruise. More interesting work, more potential to grow, better comp, better location, more seniority
    May 29, 2018 0
  • Facebook / Eng Plz
    Cruise does PSU’s which aren’t formulaic on personal performance as far as I understand. Depends on company hitting goals. At FB your RSU refresh is mostly dependent on personal perf.
    May 29, 2018 2
    • Cruise Automation Iamamar
      Cruise does both 50/50
      May 29, 2018
    • Cruise Automation / Eng ✉️
      Yup, 50/50 RSU and PSU
      May 29, 2018
  • New / Eng
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    Depends. Cruise will be the more interesting working environment and more impact. Surprised to see them beat FB on offer.

    Cruise is a bit of an unknown quantity for moving to your next job. FB will look better on your next job search unless Cruise manages to really stay on top of their game.

    If you're in SF proper commute to MPK is gonna suck.

    If FB is bootcamp track you'll have a fair range of team choices.

    Overall, Cruise seems like the better choice if you are a gambling person and FB the lower risk option.
    May 29, 2018 0
  • Google arrive
    personally i would choose Cruise too. this is a hot industry that will get more demand and growth in the future
    May 29, 2018 0
  • Uber / Eng TC or GTFO
    FYI periods consist of one dot, not two..
    May 29, 2018 0
  • Uber / Eng TC or GTFO
    290k for E4? Is that just first year? What’s the breakdown
    May 29, 2018 0
  • Cruise Automation Quackerz
    Are you including PSU as a given/definite in the TC calc? If so I'd re-evaluate based only on the RSU half as a sure bet.
    May 29, 2018 3
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      Yes. Counting PSUs as well.. vesting over 4 years..
      May 29, 2018
    • Cruise Automation / Eng ✉️
      PSUs don't vest over 4 years. Could be anywhere from 2 to 8+
      May 29, 2018
    • Cruise Automation semanticdb
      4 years for PSU is a reasonable estimation, since the goals will likely be changed to make the payout map to that timeframe anyway
      May 30, 2018
  • Google bsuar35
    Is this an ic3 or ic4 cruise offer?
    May 29, 2018 5
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      Offer letter just says senior software engineer.. I asked HR, HR said they shrinked the levels.. so there is no IC3/4 now..
      May 29, 2018
    • Google bsuar35
      What! Since when? I just received an offer last week and was told the ic3/4 system was alive and well
      May 29, 2018
    • Cruise Automation / Eng ✉️
      Nope we're compacting. Senior is the old ic3/ic4. Not sure what it officially is in the new system
      May 29, 2018
    • Cruise Automation ._.
      If he’s getting an offer now it should be IC4.
      May 30, 2018
    • Cruise Automation semanticdb
      Incorrect, ic3/4 still exist. This comp range is an ic4 offer.
      May 30, 2018
  • New spark12
    What is the breakdown on your E4 offer? I thought the max was 160/300/100
    Sep 20, 2018 1
    • Facebook gteng
      Max sign on for E4 is not 100k. Much lower - usually 25-75k depending on your competing offers.
      Jun 1
  • Two Sigma all day
    Does that 290k include sign on bonus?
    May 29, 2018 1
  • Tesla LEETCODER
    How was the interview at cruise? Can you share some advice?
    Jun 1, 2018 0
  • Cruise Automation Doubledees
    What's the break up of your Cruise offer?
    May 29, 2018 0