If you get a PIP, what is the usual turn around ratio? Is there a way to get that taken down and have a normal review by talking to higher authority or hr? Has anyone faced an issues where the manager is purposely trying to frame the employee?
I’ve faced that issue; it’s clear when the manager and the company want you out. Start looking for other jobs; you’re not getting around this plan
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Dude, real talk: you've already lost your job. Almost no one survives their PIP. Less so if your manager is not fighting for you
If you think your manager is trying to frame you, it’s already over. And HR is there to protect the company, they’re not there to help you. But don’t worry, there are better opportunities out there Start looking for them
Cry at your desk
I’ve heard that 10% - 25% make it through PIP and turn things around at Two Sigma. I think most decide to leave on their own. If you think your manager is the problem you’re probably not going to be a turnaround story (whether they are or not).
If your manager has it in for you, it’s pretty much over for you. Use this time to prepare and look for another role
It really depends on the company. Where I work now it's a standard procedure and maybe 30 to 40% survive. This is assuming no politics which you should not assume In a previous job I was a fairly popular manager in a remote office. I had hired most of the staff and I believe had their trust. Company got bought and we had a new manager. He wanted me out and to put his own guy in. Trumped up some reasons and put me on a PIP I guess thinking I would quit or something. I didn't. I basically just kept doing my job the same as before and noted carefully all the ways I delivered on the things named in the PIP. Basically called his bluff as if he fired me I'd have taken several key people with me and I guess others would have left to go elsewhere. So in the end he took me off the PIP. But that was super political, it was really a power play to try and install a different manager after an acquisition. That's not the normal situation. Industry wide I'd say 20% but in some companies it's closer to zero and where I am now 30 to 40% since we keep people who really do better. You want to see whether they really want you to improve or whether they just want you gone, and if they want you gone, why.
You're as good as fired if you're on a PIP
This!