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Probability of PIP at Microsoft/Goog/Facebook/LinkedIn

Microsoft gimmeMore
Jun 25

Been at MS for a while.. don't know anyone who is put on PIP. What's the probability at the above companies - and is it always cuz you just don't work or is it that hard to just keep up ?

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  • Facebook enginear
    At Google people are vary rarely pip'ed, maybe 1-3% of people are on a pip (was there for many years)

    At FB, a much larger chunk get pip'ed. Maybe 5-10%. (There's no target percent, it's just a higher bar)

    I love that my coworkers can be fired if they don't pull their weight. I'm mixed about me being easily fireable.
    Jun 259
    • Tinder / Eng
      meowimacat

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      What does someone have to do at FB to not get a PIP?
      Jun 25
    • Facebook enginear
      Listen to what people tell you, ship stuff, don't coast.
      Jun 25
    • Tinder / Eng
      meowimacat

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      If it's that simple then how come so many people get PIP?
      Jun 25
    • Facebook enginear
      Simple != Easy...

      Everyone gets setup for success, but not everyone does succeed
      Jun 25
    • Uber / Eng
      sight

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      I know a few FB employees who were high performers. Management turned over and they were all PIPed.

      It’s just as much about politics as it is performance. Good work is subjective (quality vs quantity).
      Jun 25
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      meowimacat

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      Shit that sucks
      Jun 25
    • Facebook enginear
      I haven't seen actual high performers pip'ed yet. I've seen people who were successful elsewhere pip'ed, but not people doing a great job.

      Politics really shouldn't impact E5 and below. At that level just work well with your team and make reasonable choices.

      E7+ totally has to deal with politics. You are have to be reasonable for everything at some level. If politics slows down my org, I'd want my director PIPed.
      Jun 25
    • LinkedIn opfx46
      How often does director get pip’d?
      Jun 25
    • Uber / Eng
      sight

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      I’ve definitely saw high performers PIPed at Facebook, some of which were E5s. Mostly because they didn’t play politics.
      Jun 26
  • LinkedIn Wbxiwq
    LinkedIn rarely puts anyone on a PIP.
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    • Oscar / Eng
      tc/gtfo

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      Pip install.
      Jun 25
  • Facebook / Eng
    Gkurhhd

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    You personal probability can be 100% or 0% - so average probability does not mean much. On Microsoft - PIPs are often done quietly so people around do not know - they think person just left on his own.
    Jun 251
    • Microsoft / Eng
      Dhxjsjjn

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      Great point. I know quite a lot of people who were forced out and they moved to G, FB and Amazon. All are doing better there than at Microsoft and all of them got promotion quickly. People seem to assume whoever are great performers tend to leave for G and FB but I have seen the opposite.
      Jun 25
  • Netflix focu10
    My experience at Google was you had to go pretty far out of your way to get PIP'd. A guy was a L3 for 4 years on our team and I think they finally told him to get serious
    Jun 253
    • Oscar / Eng
      tc/gtfo

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      More please? What exactly did he come to that “get serious”? Lol
      Jun 25
    • Google deshita
      And then he got promo this past quarter?
      Jun 25
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      meowimacat

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      What does someone have to do to get a promo?
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  • Facebook Xolfe
    FB fires very aggressively compared to others.
    Jun 251
    • Oath OPnd70
      Who or what roles do they fire?
      Jul 29
  • Apple Lionel!
    Apple is 3-4%
    Jun 250
  • Oscar / Eng
    tc/gtfo

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    tc/gtfomore
    Please have stories for us!
    Jun 250
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    meowimacat

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    I think the probability is high at FB but low at others
    Jun 250

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