React.js at the big companies after the licensing kerfuffle

New / Eng qazbs11
Aug 30, 2017 18 Comments

For the big companies that have built things with React.js, are you now finding internal push back on its use due to any (potential) conflict with its BSD-plus-Patents license? Or is no one worried and it's business as usual? Tagged only a few big ones but I'm curious to hear from any of them

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  • Amazon / Eng Curiousers
    What exactly happened
    Aug 30, 2017 5
    • Airbnb YSdh33
      Apache foundation banned react's 3 year old license all of a sudden. People who aren't lawyers got really upset (again), most of whom wildly misunderstand licensing.
      Aug 30, 2017
    • Microsoft undefined
      Facebook booby trapped React and nobody noticed until recently. It's a shitty thing they did, nobody knows if it will stand up in court, but nobody wants to be the first to test it.
      Aug 30, 2017
    • Airbnb YSdh33
      Actually everybody noticed years ago; the license was modified to what you see now; and everyone moved on. It's only ASF, and also individuals who don't hold patents or know the law, who are late.

      It's actually a great thing they did.
      Aug 30, 2017
    • New / Eng
      Ant0n

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      Second that. Just a year ago there were lots of buzz regarding the issue
      Aug 30, 2017
    • Microsoft undefined
      @YSdh33 That's not accurate. This made waves recently because of the ASF classifying this as a prohibited license. Before that, many were completely unaware of this clause. I don't know what change you're referring to, Facebook has not changed the license and it still says you grant Facebook the ability to use/violate any of your patents with no recourse so long as you're dependent on React. If you trust Facebook to never abuse your IP, then maybe you're okay with this. Not everyone is willing to take that risk.

      How is what they did a great thing for anyone other than Facebook?
      Aug 31, 2017
  • Amazon 💩job
    Business as usual
    Aug 30, 2017 0
  • Redfin lisafrank
    Yeah we decided to rewrite our entire code base. It will take years and probably sink the company but what are you gonna do
    Aug 30, 2017 0
  • Airbnb YSdh33
    No internal pushback; since we're not patent trolls, and suing Facebook is pretty fiscally unwise anyways, the patent revocation clause won't apply to us.

    (Software patents suck and shouldn't exist)
    Aug 30, 2017 0
  • Uber MobbDeep
    Fuck this tagging shit
    Aug 30, 2017 0
  • Yahoo / Eng Wooff
    Biz as usual since we're too big to pivot, but no FB tools other than react
    Aug 30, 2017 0
  • Uber / Eng HJyf34
    Biz as usual though soon most projects will probably switch to preact, but for perf/size reasons not the patent clause
    Aug 30, 2017 0
  • Tableau / Eng DAT-A
    Biz as usual
    Aug 30, 2017 0
  • Amazon ilHP76
    Business as usual
    Aug 30, 2017 0
  • Netflix / Eng dxzd07
    Fwiw, I think the only issue is for publicly facing software, or OSS software. And in the latter case, it's probably more an issue for the OSS user rather than the producer.
    Sep 9, 2017 0
  • Zenefits menH12
    Not news. We knew about it before starting with react. The only new thing here is that Apache blacklisted this license, because they have a broader set of concerns and target audience.
    Aug 30, 2017 0
  • New dtbG40
    Well played by Facebook legal team lol
    Aug 30, 2017 0
  • GoDaddy
    Haywoon

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    Business as usual
    Aug 30, 2017 0