Tesla AutoPilot Fraud

SAP ksYR03
Apr 18 61 Comments

Hi

I am now pissed how Tesla is misleading public and playing with their lives. Musk has now brought in enablers who are now creating this perception that everyone in Silicon Valley from Google to Apple to Cruise to Argo AI to Uber is wrong in their approach for Autonomous Driving and Tesla is right.

All these companies are using LIDAR. Tesla doesn’t. Because Tesla is not making FSD. they are running a fraud and calling that auto pilot.

autonomous Driving needs LIDAR. But musk is saying they are going to compete with Uber as their cars are very soon going to be Autonomous Driving they would use Tesla Network. There is NO Tesla Network. It’s all a lie.

I am so amazed Andrey Karpathy is complicit in this fraud as Director of AI at Tesla.

Tesla AutoPilot Fraud

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  • SAP ksYR03
    OP
    Dude. LIDAR is used because it maps a 3D 360 image of surrounding around a car. That’s needed because a camera is not the same as human eyes. When you drive you have ears also which give you a sense of something coming from side even if it is not in ur vision due to sound. So u do have some kind of sense of 360 picture around u while driving. LIDAR tried to take care of that redundancy. And come on do u really think ur comment makes sense? Apple and Google have the best AI experts. Are they idiots to use LIDAR which costs a bit to do this if it is possible without that? Musk is lying
    Apr 18 10
    • Amazon JF
      First time I’ve heard of using ears to drive. Maybe these car companies should be wrapping microphones to the cars
      Apr 18
    • Tesla notElonLol
      You can use parking sensors for that. LIDAR just gives you a bigger picture.
      Right now Tesla is able to detect the same stuff companies do with LIDARs
      Apr 18
    • SAP ksYR03
      OP
      Tesla is not doing anything. Ohh JFC how are u working in tech ? Musk is lying. They don’t have any autonomous driving. Pls stop being part of a cult.
      Apr 18
    • SAP ksYR03
      OP
      I can post umpteen videos of ppl’s car crashing on autopilot. Come on. Stop lying just because ur a Tesla employee. Tesla cars are just driver assist tech. And your CEO is a pathological liar. The demand has collapsed and he is lying to public and investors.
      Apr 18
    • Tesla notElonLol
      Dude, go and fix concur instead of talking about something you have no clue.
      Apr 18
    • Flagged by the community.

    • Apple fruitco334
      Uhhhhhh that’s a bit of a jump. I have my own problems with AutoPilot as an ex car industry person but let’s cool it with the Holmes comparisons. At least the Model 3 shipped.
      Apr 18
    • Google gEvm50
      Anyone who drives a Tesla will disagree with OP's opinion. AP sees it's immediate surroundings just fine with cameras. It has gotten to be very reliable.
      Apr 19
    • Tesla notElonLol
      Well, nobody can identify them 100% on freeways. City is much easier.
      Apr 20
    • Google / Eng
      IFMr24

      Google Eng

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      IFMr24more
      Lidar can barely recognize black cars.
      May 7
  • Microsoft BarFoo
    Why does FSD require LIDAR? Because everyone else uses it?
    Apr 18 1
    • Microsoft BarFoo
      Stereoscopic vision. Not LIDAR. There are 3 front-facing cameras in the Model 3.
      Apr 20
  • Tesla Pbtw66
    This is the dumbest thread here. Just don't buy the car and short our stock and we'll see who wins in the end
    Apr 18 0
  • OpenTable Meliodas
    Must be why boats and planes use LIDAR over other means of autopilot.

    And, why auto companies have shown no interest in millimeter wave radar.
    Apr 18 6
    • Oath / Mgmt Atinlay2
      Isn’t that’s what used for crash avoidance/preparedness and adaptive cruise control?
      Apr 18
    • Flagged by the community.

    • Oath / Mgmt Atinlay2
      That’s not nice
      Apr 18
    • SAP ksYR03
      OP
      If u support the fraud that is AP which has got ppl killed then I am sorry I can’t be nice. Ppl’s lives are at stake and one man is lying to everyone.
      Apr 18
    • Oath / Mgmt Atinlay2
      Dramatic much?
      Apr 18
    • SAP ksYR03
      OP
      Say that to more than 20 ppl who died in this.
      Apr 18
  • Apple Hansel2
    State your TSLA position first - be honest.
    Apr 18 6
    • SAP ksYR03
      OP
      Dude it’s so ironical that u work in Apple and this lady is dissing ur own company’s approach but u blindly trust Tesla. Great. Good luck with blind cult faith
      Apr 18
    • Apple fruitco334
      The fuck
      Apr 18
    • Autodesk aOAG07
      “Ironical”
      Apr 18
    • Apple Hansel2
      Apparently, OP cannot read, or is a bot 😀
      Apr 19
    • Tesla / Eng TeslaWolf
      Dude man bro. Ease up off that hater-ade or you may wet your shorts
      Apr 23
    • SAP ksYR03
      OP
      Sure. That’s why u had 50% drop in revenue and 700MM loss again this Q. Hey but ur cult leader just in Jan said expecting slight profit? -700MM is def profit
      Apr 24
  • Microsoft FBisEvil
    The funny thing is that it’s only Tesla employees defending the brand lol. Word has gotten out, losers!
    Apr 24 11
    • Microsoft BarFoo
      Bullshit.

      Tesla makes the best EV in the world, hands down, and whether or not his FSD will be the best, he’s making significant headway in the autonomous driving game.
      Apr 24
    • Microsoft FBisEvil
      We got one ☝️
      Apr 24
    • Microsoft BarFoo
      Haven’t talked to a single Tesla owner who isn’t impressed with their car or the features.

      Continue hating on Tesla. It’s the cool thing to do now, like hating on Microsoft was cool in the 90s and early 2000s.
      Apr 24
    • Microsoft FBisEvil
      Whatever dude. Good luck getting you car serviced if you need any spare parts. Elon has ruined that companies balance sheet to bail himself out. I wouldn’t be surprised if spaceX is next.
      Apr 24
    • Microsoft BarFoo
      ROFL. Enjoy listening to Mr Spiegler as he continues to lose money in Tesla.
      Apr 24
    • Microsoft FBisEvil
      The butthurt is strong with this one ☝️.
      Apr 24
    • Microsoft BarFoo
      What am I butthurt about? I have a great car that improves all the time. I’m happy with it. You sound butthurt. Did Elon not respond to you on Twitter? Did they forget to call you back for a test drive? Poor baby.
      Apr 24
    • Microsoft FBisEvil
      You sound butthurt bc you keep replying to me. Why do you care so much about my opinion?

      I’m not going to give you the validation your father never gave you. Talk so someone else.
      Apr 24
    • Tesla chinaman0
      Lol I think he lost $$$ shorting TSLA
      Apr 24
    • Microsoft FBisEvil
      Everything is a conspiracy. Lol, Good job on your earnings yesterday
      Apr 25
  • SAP ksYR03
    OP
    Musk said FSD 2017. Then 2018. Now 2019. I mean come one. This guy is a liar. He is taking money from ppl for this and hasn’t delivered the tech. Pure fraud
    Apr 18 4
    • Tesla chinaman0
      Ok
      Apr 18
    • Tesla chinaman0
      Do you know how much we are worth? Like 567644*0=
      Apr 18
    • Microsoft FBisEvil
      Pure fraud. The sad thing is they can’t even make profitable cars. The FSD fraud they get money for is a large part of their pathetic margins on their most expensive m3 models they nobody wants anymore.

      That’s why they selling returned 2018 versions as part of a delayed registration scheme.
      Apr 24
    • Tesla chinaman0
      Ok
      Apr 24
  • OP, this thread is full of Tesla boys protecting their master. I agree with you though. As I read a lot a out self driving, Tesla is down in the pack of capabilities today.

    The issue is that they are the most vocal but the least able to pull something off. Waymo and Cruise are wayyyyyy in front
    Apr 21 1
    • Tesla / Eng TeslaWolf
      How many miles/km have they logged?
      Apr 23
  • Tesla nYCR46
    @OP really that is why blind is perfect place for you.. you can keep talking shit without any base, facts or data. Pl go read, get educated and than come back with correction in your perception and understanding.
    Apr 19 0
  • Apple fruitco334
    Intel promised 10nm in 16, where’s their thread???
    Apr 18 0
  • Uber zhy
    Musk promised full auto pilot by the end of this year, let’s get some popcorn and enjoy the show! ;)
    Apr 18 4
    • Tesla / Mgmt
      t3$l@

      Tesla Mgmt

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      t3$l@more
      Get your facts right
      Apr 20
    • Tesla / Mgmt
      t3$l@

      Tesla Mgmt

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      t3$l@more
      Feature complete, I am sure you never listened to the entire interview
      Apr 21
    • Tesla / Mgmt
      t3$l@

      Tesla Mgmt

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      t3$l@more
      Ok
      Apr 21
    • Microsoft FBisEvil
      Nobody believes that snake oil salesman anymore. Good luck raising money
      Apr 24
  • SAP ksYR03
    OP
    Everyone in this thread would one day would be questioning their whole sense of judgement when their cult leader is charged with criminal fraud and this company files for bankruptcy. They wud fall into depression as this would a huge shock to them. Musk is a far bigger crook than Elizabeth Holmes. And everything he says is a lie and fraud. Just wait for it. I am done here talking to these idiots
    Apr 23 1
    • Apple fruitco334
      “Talking to these idiots” - bro you’re looking in the mirror
      Apr 23
  • SAP ksYR03
    OP
    No doubt Silicon Valley has cults and idiots. I am done here talking to you. Wait for this fraudster to collapse soon.
    Apr 19 1
    • Tesla chinaman0
      That’s why its called silicon valley
      Apr 19
  • Tesla chinaman0
    @OP dude, you dont know what you are talking dude...first do some homework dude...n then comment dude
    Apr 18 0
  • Splunk SPLUNKER1
    @KsYR03 what’s your agenda dude?!
    Apr 18 0
  • Oath / Mgmt Atinlay2
    Cool story
    Apr 18 0

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