Tesla hate

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Jul 13 29 Comments

What the heck is up with all the hate Tesla is getting? Elon just fired some self driving peeps, there's a groupie Twitter gang trying to "expose" Tesla is a failing business and propped up by investment. Some even claiming Tesla is a ponzi Silicon Valley company, wtf?! A ponzi company? They are building and selling products (cars) and I've met many ppl who just love their Teslas.

I don't get where all this hatred is coming from, for those who work or follow Tesla closely care to explain?

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  • Amazon / Data syndclaire
    1. some, not all, but enough Tesla owners are insufferable douches that think their choice of transportation morally elevates them above others.

    2. Elon Musk is a brilliant but unlikable blowhard that generates a lot of backlash. People especially in the investment game find it ridiculous that he can say and do things that get other CEOs fired or worse without consequence, purely because of the Tesla hype.

    3. Teslas are great cars, but they're not perfect. Auto enthusiasts are annoyed by the shallow fan-worship that Teslas receive from the public, when better options exist.

    Same reasons why a lot of people didn't like Apple and Apple fanboys.
    Jul 13 6
    • New / Mgmt
      Aqgs27

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      What better options and is that why Teslas aren't meeting sales expectations?
      Jul 13
    • Apple fanboys are among the most insufferable people out there.
      Jul 13
    • Amazon / Data syndclaire
      >Among EVs what are some better options?
      The answer is always 'for what use case'? For many use cases, the best option isn't an EV.

      'I want the most efficient commuter vehicle.'
      Buy a motorcycle. You can even get an electric one.

      'I want balls-out racing performance.'
      Lots of choices in the price range, and Tesla does poorly anywhere except the drag strip. My personal pick would be an AMG GT.

      'I want to haul my family in style and comfort.'
      X7 or GLS were made for this. The new Navigator is exceptionally good as well.

      'I want to explore the wilderness and go anywhere.'
      Just kidding, no one would consider a Tesla for this.

      'I want to tow my boat and take six of my friends to the marina.'
      Just kidding again.

      'I want a do it all family sedan that's still sporty.'
      You could do ok with a 3 or S here. But you could also get an an M3, M5, Panemera, V60 Polestar, or even S class instead. Each is better than a Tesla in its own way.

      'I only want electric, I don't care if it's the best option.'
      That's why no one takes you seriously.
      Jul 13
    • Apple / Eng 🐒codemonk
      Cool. Looks like Tesla is better if you only want an EV
      Jul 13
    • Tesla VXvWsd
      “Among EV’s what are some better options” as in, given your choice of any electric vehicle, what are your better options?

      Not to sound cliche but EV’s will force obsolescence of ICE vehicles well before 2050. The technology is improving exponentially and will correct any perceived issues you’ve stated above.

      Whatever technology hasn’t accomplished to persuade you to buy one, the CA politicians will certainly cover, as they continue to increase gas prices in the form of road taxes.
      Jul 14
  • Tesla / Eng 🐉⛈
    It's like the saying goes: "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."
    Jul 13 4
    • Oracle stpd
      And then you are caught being a fraud.
      Jul 13
    • Tesla / Eng 🐉⛈
      What's the fraud? Elon making outlandish promises? Guy is too optimistic sure and unrealistic with timelines, what else is new? But we do actually make a product that people enjoy at the end of the day. I don't see any other manufacturer with dedicated fans like ours. Why are they fans? They legitimately like the product.
      Jul 14
    • Homeaway DtnN64
      Last person I heard say that was Elizabeth Holmes
      Jul 15
    • Microsoft Teslanos
      You mean aside from the most brazen act of securities fraud in history?
      Jul 26
  • Tesla InmR60
    After being in the company for a year. I realized tesla over promises on every front. Forces engineers to work 80 hour weeks to meet these promises tha elon tweets at 4 in the morning and then we still under deliver. One great story I have from tesla is when elon tweeted a service feature to be out 2 days after the tweet and my team was still over 2 weeks away from finishing it but middle and upper management falsely made claims to make themselves look better and we had to work 16 hour days to push out an untested broken feature
    Jul 13 4
    • New / Other
      DuQvV7y

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      A company I worked for ran a super bowl ad on a product that I was working on even before we were code complete.

      Sadly, many companies over-promise and under-deliver
      Jul 13
    • Amazon Waze
      That Tesla story is terrifying. It's bad when you overwork engineers and push untested code. It's not like you are pushing code to a website that sells stuff, where the worst case would be someone went be able to buy shit. But you guys are pushing code to cars and lives depend on correctly functioning software.

      If I ever get a Tesla, I am definitely disabling over the air updates. But after reading this, I don't think I want to be in a Tesla.

      We need to have tougher laws and regulations on developing/testing/deploying software to safety critical systems such as automobiles.
      I think it is a matter of when not if before this happens, but the question is how many people have to die before legislators act.
      Jul 13
    • New / Mgmt
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      Is this a reason for the many high level departures? Like are Teslas finances in order? Why so many ppl leaving when it comes to finance and accounting?
      Jul 13
    • SpaceX SlaveX420
      We laugh every time elon tweets about our company because it usually is a lie or is going to make some departments life hell working 80-90 hr a week on some half baked tweet.
      Jul 20
  • LinkedIn fisheixnd
    When fanboyism is so thick, its hard not to have counters. Newton's 3rd law...
    Jul 13 0
  • Intel Spikiera
    The more successful you are, the more haters you have. It's normal. Maybe people actually don't hate the brand itself but just the hardcore fans
    Jul 13 0
  • New galo
    I love my Tesla and everyone I know that has one love theirs too. The fact that it is software based is a great advantage people still don't fully appreciate.
    Jul 13 0
  • PayPal LeJunior
    Unpopular opinion: Elon is an overinflated asshole who was told one too many times he was a genius. He started believing it so he stopped using the muscle he has over his shoulders.
    Jul 13 1
    • Microsoft Teslanos
      He literally recycles popular science projects with SV VC, albeit unprofitably, and everyone thinks he’s the first person to to ever think about anything
      Jul 26
  • New / Other
    DuQvV7y

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    DuQvV7ymore
    Every generation has its consumerist boogie-man .

    In the 80s/early 90s, it was the yuppies with their Lacoste shirts, Benetton sweaters and BMWs

    Early aughts was Prius.

    Then came iPhones and Teslas.

    As a company it’s an enviable and terrifying position to be in. It boils down to “they hate us cos they ain’t us”.

    Regardless of whether Tesla survives or not, we will have a new target of our ire by 2021.

    Now taking submissions.
    Jul 13 0
  • Tesla / Eng elontuskk
    There was a great article on how all those media are being funded by big motor corporations.
    Jul 13 0
  • Amazon / Eng Benny Lava
    When you have a lot of hype people have a lot of expectations, and not all of them can be fulfilled.
    Jul 13 0
  • Apple TimCuckold
    40M stock shorted by TeslaQ scums
    Jul 21 3
    • Microsoft Teslanos
      Shorting is a healthy market activity, especially when valuations get as ridiculous as they are for this absurd company
      Jul 26
    • Apple TimCuckold
      say that to bynd
      Jul 27
    • Microsoft Teslanos
      Lol, it’s even more needed in beyond meat. Of course ipo s have their own issues from lockup and lack of liquidity
      Jul 27

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