Twitter tech apprenticeship: Whites, Asians, and Indians need not apply.

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Jul 10 60 Comments

“...women, black, Latinx, Native American, etc, just to name a few. We’d like to highly encourage these, and all the folks from similar backgrounds, to apply”

“Twitter is an equal opportunity employer. We do not discriminate based on race, color, ethnicity, ancestry, national origin, religion, sex, gender, gender identity, gender expression, sexual orientation, age, disability, veteran status, genetic information, marital status or any legally protected status.”

Oh the irony.

https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topics/company/2019/engapprenticeshipprogram.html

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  • Indeed egobruiser
    I mean I totally think the whole D&I shit is tired and needs to evolve. But did you really overlook this part?

    “In our Inclusion & Diversity quarterly report, we announced that we were looking to generate a stronger pipeline for diverse talent. As we look to make our company reflect the diverse voices that come to Twitter every day...”

    Seems like you’re trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill. ::yawn::
    Jul 10 14
    • Indeed egobruiser
      Just like you didn’t read the article. Lol sorry ass.
      Jul 10
    • CentralReach
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      My ego is indeed bruised 😳
      Jul 10
    • Indeed egobruiser
      What ego? 😂
      Jul 10
    • CentralReach
      uedC03

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      How rude! 😶
      Jul 10
    • Indeed egobruiser
      😜 That I am. Guilty as charged.
      Jul 10
  • Microsoft idknbd
    nowhere does it say whites need not apply
    Jul 10 6
    • Microsoft idknbd
      You are factually incorrect. And stupid. Don't let your inferiority complex keep you down.
      Jul 10
    • Twitter popcorn🍿
      OP
      “we hope to grow our technical workforce of next-generation leaders from...
      and those underrepresented in tech (women, black, Latinx, Native American).”

      I guess you were never really good at English comprehension huh?
      Jul 10
    • Microsoft idknbd
      You must be trolling. There's no way you are this stupid.
      Jul 10
    • Twitter popcorn🍿
      OP
      Lol that’s the best rebuttal you can come up with?

      You still failed to disprove my statement about your reading comprehension abilities.
      Jul 10
    • Clover Health sses
      OP dude you really need to chill. Your paranoia is adding all sorts of assumption.
      Jul 10
  • 2U / Mgmt fimb6
    Not at all ironic. Giving apprenticeship opportunities to underrepresented folks in no way discriminates against folks who are prevalently offered tech roles and learning opportunities because stereotypes already favor them.
    Jul 10 4
    • Twitter popcorn🍿
      OP
      SJW spotted.

      Not sure where you have been the last year but “diversity” candidates are heavily favored now over whites and Asians at all the major tech companies.
      Jul 10
    • Accenture akijangun
      Proof?
      Jul 10
    • Wayfair iBOH74
      No need to quickly label people.

      It's a complicated issue and if certain tech companies value more diversity, good for them.
      Jul 10
    • Spotify ackbar
      It’s a zero sum game. One person is getting the job instead of another.

      Furthermore, stereotyping and bias aren’t evenly distributed, so the argument that “stereotypes favor groups, therefore we must do X” doesn’t hold water.
      Jul 10
  • New dUNp73
    Lol I can see that you are pissed, but someone in HR was just trying to go above and beyond to advertise diversity at twitter. No need to be so cynical.
    Jul 10 3
    • Oscar 🐨koala
      Put it another way. The same can be said about university hiring event. It’s sort of discriminatory to give MIT kids better chance of getting interviews than an equally rockstar from a no-name school.
      Jul 10
    • Twitter popcorn🍿
      OP
      That’s cause MIT grads have a higher chance of success than hiring a rando from a state school. Yes there are some rockstar engineers that dropped out of college, didn’t attend, or went to a shitty school, but they are the few. If you hire an MIT grad, by definition he/she already has shown signs of success (by getting into one of the top engineering schools in the world). Less risk with hiring an MIT grad, no?

      I’ve yet to meet an MIT/Stanford CS grad that couldn’t code his way out of a paper bag (e.g., yes they were mostly all born smarter than the average American and also worked hard in high school).
      Jul 10
    • Intel leedle
      And if MIT grad sucks for some reason, no one would blame you for hiring them since it’s a very low risk school
      Jul 10
  • OpenDoor atleng
    IANAL, but I‘m pretty sure encouraging people from non-traditional backgrounds to apply without restricting applications to those people is okay under equal opportunity employment law so long as you don’t use [characteristic] after the application is submitted to whittle down the applicant pool or to make a final hiring decision after an interview.

    I don’t see any problem here.
    Jul 10 3
    • Twitter popcorn🍿
      OP
      But they do use it to whittle down the applicant pool.
      Jul 10
    • OpenDoor atleng
      Do you have evidence showing that applicants from underrepresented groups that are subsets of protected classes were more likely to get interviews than applicants with traditional backgrounds? The way this reads, they are tiptoeing around to create a more diverse workforce by creating a more diverse talent pipeline (which is the only legal way), knowing that once someone applies they can’t use those sorts of characteristics to make decisions about who receives an interview.

      Also worth noting that they’re perfectly within their rights to show a bias toward candidates who, for example, are boot camp graduates. That is not a protected class.
      Jul 10
    • Twitter popcorn🍿
      OP
      I do. I’ve had managers tell me “we’re only looking for diversity candidates” and proceeded to line me up to interview such candidates. Which I don’t have a problem with. I interviewed them the same I did for an asian or white person.
      Jul 10
  • Tesla dizzypop
    A serious question: what *actual* benefits does diversity and inclusion bring to a company?
    Jul 10 10
    • Clover Health sses
      Oh, so moving the goalposts now?
      Jul 10
    • Microsoft idknbd
      How did you make the leap from "diversity causes better prodicts" to "indian-only team can't create products the whole world would use?" Are you being intentionally dense?
      Jul 10
    • Twitter popcorn🍿
      OP
      TikTok is created by all Chinese and it’s doing well in U.S. and many other intl markets.
      Jul 11
    • Tesla dizzypop
      The female period app is a blatant example of a survivor bias too, correct?
      Jul 11
    • Uber / Eng mH7bSe
      Nothing.
      Jul 11
  • Google F0m38g
    in b4 lawsuit
    Jul 10 0
  • Uber / Eng mH7bSe
    New way to hire un-qualified DI hire.
    Jul 10 1
    • 2U / Eng fimb6
      That’s a pretty gross assumption. But also, these are pre-entry level positions that are intended to train up people into qualified engineers. They surely don’t pay as well as an engineer and they likely don’t turn into eng positions if a person doesn’t qualify after. I know how apprenticeships are handled where I work and I doubt they would promote people who weren’t any good just to keep their diversity numbers.
      Jul 10
  • Facebook public2
    Nothing to see here, companies have always offered programs designed at target audiences. Get over it.
    Jul 10 0
  • 2U / Eng fimb6
    Just another entitled man here who reads something like this and ignores all the non-racial ways a candidate can bring diversity to the table. They also talk about diversity in background, Econ class, etc. These are for pre-entry level apprenticeship positions, so not taking anything away from people who have gone to school/leetcoded their way to an eng role. I guarantee these positions pay less than most white/Asian/Indian men would accept anyway.
    Jul 10 0
  • Oscar 🐨koala
    :) why don’t you do a walk-out?
    Jul 10 0
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    • Twitter popcorn🍿
      OP
      Read between the lines. They won’t hire u if ur asian.
      Jul 11
    • Uber / Eng mH7bSe
      Don't worry. Democrats will make it lawful to discriminate based on race, gender etc.
      Jul 11
    • Uber / Eng mH7bSe
      I-1000 and SCA5 are no republican.
      Jul 11
  • Intuit CwuK88
    Lol I wish I was born as a women instead of men
    Jul 10 2
    • 2U / Eng fimb6
      I doubt that. Women have to work twice as hard as men to get the same recognition. Maybe just focus on not being mediocre and you won’t get left behind when everyone else starts getting rewarded equally for their skills and competency.
      Jul 12
    • DoorDash 7hsk8h3
      "Twice as hard"? How do you pull off such a quantitative argument? Do women work twice the number of hours as men do?
      5d
  • Accenture akijangun
    Does anyone know the salaries for these positions?
    Jul 10 0