Underpaid?

Could I be making more at another brokerage house? Currently making $65k/year as a Registered Associate at Morgan Stanley Wealth Management. Fully licensed. 3 years experience. Understand and trade options.

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Merrill Lynch Jbox5002 Oct 29, 2019

If you are just a registered client associate you are probably on the higher end of comp for a major wirehouse. Is 65k your base from MS or does that include additional comp from advisors?

Morgan Stanley MSC007 OP Oct 29, 2019

65k is TC with FA pay included.

Merrill Lynch Jbox5002 Oct 29, 2019

Make yourself as irreplaceable as possible with the advisors client base and you can try to ask for a raise; but unless you are bringing in outside assets or taking over relationships entirely, you are probably nearing the peak. See if you could join as a junior advisor on the team, alot of senior advisors need succession plans for their practices.

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kingax Oct 30, 2019

Yes you’re definitely underpaid! I’d say $75-80k is more realistic.

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muad Oct 30, 2019

More comp is possible at an RIA but it really depends on complexity and planning capabilities. Pursue a CFP and comp will increase. PM me for more details...

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JoshBrown Oct 30, 2019

You’re near the peak unless you negotiate a % of the book.

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jcardenasm Oct 30, 2019

Unfortunately registered csa's salary is very arbitrary, when I was at MS salary ranged from 50 all the way to the low six figures. See if you can get promoted to portfolio associate or wealth management analyst the firm might bump you up another 10 15k

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ABbz61 Oct 30, 2019

I’m 3 years experience as a CFP at an independent RIA. I’ve found independent firms are way more willing to give responsibility and client facing opportunities where you can add value and attract new assets. Base is 80k with variable comp. this year TC will be between 150-170k. Lots of older advisors wanting to offload

Redfin freehope Nov 1, 2019

Where do you work?

Morgan Stanley MSC007 OP Oct 31, 2019

this is all sounds par for the course. somewhat what i expected to hear. my current goal is to join an advisor training program in april. if i get stonewalled, then i will consider other options in the firm or making a lateral move to a competitor for a higher salary

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ABbz61 Oct 31, 2019

Enrolling in the CFP program will give you a much better opportunity to get into a training program. I’ve heard Merrill Edge is a decent program but the BD world is dying out so I’d heavily consider finding an independent

Morgan Stanley MSC007 OP Oct 31, 2019

Honestly, I’ll be considering all options come April. My work environment has become toxic and coming in everyday has become a chore. I work for an FA now that is willing to help me through the FA training process and trickle clients down to me (he’s looking to retire in about 5 years). That’s the only reason I’m still here.

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ABbz61 Nov 5, 2019

I would also mention that I wouldn’t put your ability to trade options on a resume. Irrelevant for 99% of jobs and employers are less likely to hire someone who they might assume (potentially incorrectly) is a high risk investor who might influence clients to act the same.

Morgan Stanley MSC007 OP Nov 7, 2019

The reason I bring that up is not because I suggest options. More because we have clients that are active options traders and I’m the only non FA that understands them enough to make the trades for the clients. Doesn’t sound like a big deal, but you’d be surprised how little people understand them and how often i get asked questions on options from other support staff.

Morgan Stanley raindtwice Nov 19, 2019

Ultimately depends on your value added to the FA team. Your range sounds about average. Your biggest boost will come from supplemental comp from the FAs.