HR IssuesOct 12, 2019
Chasefjsue

Was put on a PIP

Was put on a PIP than a written warning, managers went out of there way to spread rumors and get teammates to not work with me. Managers intellectually insecure, seat warmer workaholic, creates a toxic environment for all of us especially APAC and Visa workers... I feel obligated to go to HR, what would be the best approach? Or should I just jump ship to another team? TC 80k

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ARM šŸØ1šŸ»1šŸ¼1 Oct 12, 2019

Get a different job first. Unless you have concrete evidence of this guy. There is nothing you can do. Whatever you do, donā€™t tell him where you are going next.

Amazon weeeeeeee Oct 12, 2019

> seat warmer workaholic I suspect youā€™re not performing as expected.

Amazon XHOw37 Oct 12, 2019

My thoughts exactly

Uber WheedelDee Oct 12, 2019

Yeah seat - wƤrmer implies your manager does nothing and workaholic is the opposite...

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Chase fjsue OP Oct 12, 2019

Thank you

HERE 7a@wKCn Oct 12, 2019

If you're on PIP, is transferring even an option (i.e., isn't there a policy where you aren't able to initiate a transfer while on PIP)? Maybe jumping ship is your only avenue now -- you're not going to get any luv from HR... That said, are you getting any support from your team mates? If you're not seeing that, then you should maybe do a bit of self-reflection...

Chase fjsue OP Oct 12, 2019

Teamates are really supportive, they are on Visas so it's hard for them to speak out. Its good advice to look inward, I just analyze, self reflect and improve.

Uber BobbyB. Oct 12, 2019

PIP = Paid interview preparation. Start leetcoding

Chase fjsue OP Oct 12, 2019

Thank you

American Airlines ydntudkof Oct 12, 2019

Time to move on! Good luck

Chase fjsue OP Oct 12, 2019

Thank you

E*Trade cbEV72 Oct 12, 2019

Hr will support a manager

Chase fjsue OP Oct 12, 2019

Thank you

American Airlines ydntudkof Oct 12, 2019

Pretty much. Manager wins most of the time. Even if not your career goner

Chase fjsue OP Oct 12, 2019

I wish @cbEV72 you would have thought I stole his puppy. I just want to build things I don't try to get caught up in the office politics.

E*Trade cbEV72 Oct 12, 2019

Iā€™m just giving you the other sideā€™s perspective. I havenā€™t seen a manager who likes to pip. It sucks.

Akamai Technologies hpBF22 Oct 12, 2019

your TC is so low that they are doing you a favor by pipping you. Quit immediately and get that TC up. You can make more per hour grinding LC than working for 80k/year. You'll double your TC.

Chase fjsue OP Oct 12, 2019

Excellent point, thank you!

Bose haITried Oct 12, 2019

Get another job, dont bother with fighting the pip. Only cases where that works is if you had a personal non work issue , you were a good performer in the past but it slipped now and your current manager or his boss still likes you.