What do Chinese people in US think of Tiananmen square massacre or democracy in general?

I know some Chinese that were there. And a lot of Chinese that weren’t that know about it. Things are quite good for the masses right now and there isn’t too much to rebel over

It is mostly used as an example these days to show how uninformed foreigners are when they talk about Chinese politics and China. When a Chinese person ‘argues’ with you on this matter, he is not arguing with you, he is teaching you. Not saying that you are wrong, you are just so unqualified to talk about it, so people have to give you a lecture on basics first. Just imagine you try to discuss basketball with someone, they begin with “you know, basketball players usually have hands and legs”. Did you know Modi is accused for racial hate crime and massive killing before leaving India? If you did, it only means you were educated, and Chinese are in general better educated than Indians.

1. Nobody gives a shit about an incident that happened 3 decades ago. It's not relevant to anyone nowadays. People are aware, but are too busy to give a shit. 2. Democracy is a sham. A shitty leadership voted in by democracy isn't any better imo than a good leadership that wasn't voted in. People only care about growth and quality of life. If we live in an authoritarian dictatorship, but the dictatorship improves my wellbeing everyday, I'm cool with it. 3.This whole thing about freedom being limited in China is mostly edge cases, ie if you're into academia and are super into writing things that may potentially cause dissonance. For most people living day to day lives, nobody gives a shit. Dude. Just go take a vacation and go to China. See how fast paced things are. See how it's now a cashless society and you use your phone to pay for everything and how convinient that is. See how you can take a high speed rail and go from Beijing to Shanghai in a few hours. See the abundance of food and shopping and the Convinience of having stuff delivered to you on the go. For most people, thats enough. There's no reason to challenge govt. It's a different story if you're in rural areas, particularly in geopolitically sensitive areas like western China. But that means that people there are poor and thus are neglected. That happens everywhere. You have a voice if you have money. If you're poor, you'll be oppressed anywhere you go in the world, and no amount of democracy will help you.

All authoritarian dictators start as beloved rulers at first. But then the true colors come out eventually

They don’t think about it. It’s not public knowledge. Talking about it publicly will get you arrested.

Tc 150k 4 yoe. A) yes all my friends know about it before coming to us. It's not a secret. B) I don't know. My parents don't talk to me about this. But Chinese people loves to talk about politics and share opinions in close-door conversations, so I'd assume they know it. C) I was born in 90s, my generation don't care about democracy like last generation does. We know what will happen in tiananmen event happens again. Young people puts way more efforts on earning more money than caring about political system. A lot of Chinese people have mixed feeling about democracy. China doesn't have democracy system in history. Nobody knows what will happen if china takes democracy system. There are so many live examples in the world that one country takes democratic system and collapses. Democracy sounds promising because developed countries are running in this way. But it's hard to prove democracy will is the foundation of a developed country. Singapore is a developed country with democracy. Its political system works well. Back 1980s, Chinese government leaders were following Singapore model. When economy goes well, most people are happy. So you don't hear many Chinese people complaining about Chinese government. In 1989, the government was corrupted and doing pretty bad economically, people back then started the protest. Hope it makes sense.

Not Chinese here, but democracy and China doesn’t really mix. Read any bit of Chinese history and you’ll realize that 1. Beijing’s political control is tenuous at best, a popular vote can lead to a. democracy, b. unintended geopolitical situations like the kingdom of Sichuan, or even c. A millenarianist insurrection like the Falongong taking over Shanghai 2. peaceful political dissent in public in China is a foreign concept 3. The Chinese and foreign things needs 1000+ years to mix 4. The probability of a civil war with a nine figure death toll is way too high for comfort. The Chinese shouldn’t try a transition to democracy, it’s too risky.

Yes all Chinese know Tiananmen event and don't care much about democracy. They've seen so many bad example of so called democratic countries: India, Taiwan etc. Eventually China will find its own way and get most of the countries on board.

a) yes. Come on, you can always use VPN b) yes. c) Before I took college in the US, I thought democracy is the ideal model for a society. With the years I was in college and now working, I put a question mark on that now. Many premises need to be there for democracy to work well, and 2 of the most important ones I can think of is a) the voters need to be well-educated and well-informed b) every voter must vote. These 2 are not easy to achieve, even for a much better educated society than China like US. Besides that, the fact that China is a country with 1.x billion population makes the cost of practicing democracy impractical. Americans needs to understand that democracy is still an experiment and it's not superior. China's approach is not superior either. But the bottom line is whatever approach the country is taking, it must WORKS, even under the complex contexts of that country. And folks, check out China yourself and see what I am talking about. Otherwise, stay ignorant about China and get hyped with the outdated stereotypes still popping out from the Western media.