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- Facebook BaiCocoFznWho needs a resume after FAANGM? It's like worrying about things after Nirvana
- Let's weigh the options over 5 years
1: FAANG - you have earned 800k to 1M at least
2: PHD - you have earned a degree to have a shot at a FAANG job.
What did we learn from the above exercise? That, you shouldn't be accepted at either for inability to figure this out by yourself. The only thing better than FAANG is being a CEO at FAANG.
- @poi3: honestly speaking its upto the person. If you are a knowledge oriented person, go get that PhD and try to make a real difference in the world. If you are a money, perks and luxury oriented person, go get that top TC.
Everyone is different. You need to find your happy place. Dollars and RSUs don't make everyone happy.
I have friends who make 70k and live a fun and happy life. I have friends making half million struggling at emotional and relationship levels.
- @Baicoco - wait, is 70k not that much? I have a PhD and make 45 at my alternately mind-numbingly-boring and stressful corporate job, and lived every minute of my PhD and hate every minute of my job. If my pay went up to 70 I'd probably be a lot happier about work and miss grad school less.
- tooQ10 - it is next to impossible for some people. Also, it is extremely difficult to raise a family because 1. both parents have to work, 2. Parents are out of the house for 10-12 hours due to insane commute times, 3. A half decent non-shared apartment/condo for a family will cost 4000 a month
- Any code monkey can grind leetcode long enough and get into FANG. That’s not impressive. The vast majority of people simply don’t have what it takes to get into a Ph.D program, let alone finish one. I considered that to be significantly more difficult and impressive. But from a purely practical perspective the FANG would likely be more useful.
- I’ve been here long enough. People here struggle with coding leetcode problems and are incapable of researching solutions to their basic personal problems. You have no idea about the level of complexity of the problems that science and engineering Ph.D candidates at top universities are working on.
- @rhpx71 - just to be absolutely clear, I'm not talking specifically about CS PhDs. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that a typical CS PhD is above a typical FAANG employee. But PhDs in general are probably less qualified than someone who gets -hired- by a FAANG.
(Just for the record, I sailed through my linguistics master's and doctorate and couldn't even get a phone screen at any FAANG.)
- A science PhD from a top 10 university. The admission, performance, and graduation requirements are far more difficult.
- Having FAANG on a resume proves nothing, other than one got hired. They could have been a boot camp graduate and an LC memorizer.
A science PhD from a top 10 university is someone at the top of their domain.
No one would hire the junior FAANG employee over a graduate from a top PhD program for a science research role.
We are talking about top 10 programs here, not online PhD’s.
- Junior? Assuming that one went to FAANG right after grad and other one went to get phd, one who joined FAANG would easily be a senior; even higher than senior if they have same calibre of intelligence.
Top of their domain? Sure but how useful that domain is really situational dependent. You really think getting a phd is more impressive than 5-year-track as a senior sde at FAANG to the hms?
- As a hiring manager, yes.
Obviously the domain is situational that is the whole point of a PhD. It isn’t a generic degree.
You would seriously give higher review priority to the “I worked at Amazon” candidate over the “I have a PhD from MIT in ML” candidate?
I get the sense a lot of non-hiring managers without degrees from top 10 programs are opining on this thread.
- A phd candidate not only has 0 yrs of exp, i cant tell how quickly that person can ramp up and contribute to my team. Thats a risk and it may spike an interest to interview them but no guarantees. On the other hand, senior at FAANG for at least few years? This candidate is pretty much guaranteed to ramp up quick and contribute so much faster already.
I think your definition of impressiveness depends on how rare you see these ppl. Mines just based on how quick they get promoted and how much actual work/contribution they can give me right away from the hiring.
- I love it now everyone is stuck on "Top 10 University". Universities are basically cash cows now. If you are passionate about something and willing to put in the time to innovate something useful, research something ground breaking or make meaningful contribution to sciences, you don't need a university. You can do it on your own time online and at home or at a library. Everything is available to you at the tip of your fingertips. All you need are the non-tangibles within you and not a big name university. Most of today's research is done online even at the top universities anyway.
On the flip side, you could be book smart and get a PhD from Harvard by doing mundane tasks and grunt work of "studying".
There are tons and tons of PhDs from top colleges working in tech doing nothing remotely related to their PhD research.
- Facebook FBDrunktooQ10 - its all good! Gotta pay them bills right? Glad you got to explore the research subject for so many years. It's an experience of it's own, I'm sure. Most don't have the guts to pursue it and take the easy path of working for someone else right away. You are special in your own right.Apr 150
- New gJyp57That depends on who sees the resume, what you're applying for, and want you want. For instance, if you've worked at FAANGM, but you actually want to do cancer research at a top laboratory, meaning getting your hands wet in molecular biology, genetics, etc., but do not hold a PhD degree, you may be an essential asset in coding, algorithms, etc., but other that, you'd pretty much be useless. The same goes the other way around, I think. If the reason you're asking is moneywise, I guess FAANGM is a better option.