Why is China better than the USA?

Jan 19 144 Comments

There are of course many reasons why China is superior to the USA but I would like to hear people's opinions on what those are specifically.

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  • Honeywell FM&T rad!0
    Free re-education.
    Jan 19 7
    • Expedia gurgle
      I would consider public education in the US to be state propaganda as well.
      Jan 20
    • Honeywell FM&T rad!0
      I dunno, there is definitely left leaning bias in schools, but it’s not to the point of indoctrination. I have a 10 and 13 YO in public school, and while my kids sometimes tell of the teachers bad-mouthing Trump, my son also draws plenty of gun pictures at school, and other boy stuff, and the teachers don’t flip out.
      Jan 20
    • Expedia gurgle
      I mean in terms of the content they teach, they don't teach that the dropping of atomic bombs had very strong push back against from the generals there or that the US wanted war with Japan for years and so in the 1930s they began embargoes against the country, etc. There's lots of national myths in the US as well. I also don't remember my public school textbook talking about how Jewish refugees in the 1930s were denied entry.
      Jan 20
    • Honeywell FM&T rad!0
      Sure, but you’ll find that in any country. Glorify the good and whitewash the non-good. There is the teaching of history, and then the politicizing of it. The latter is what I don’t want.
      Jan 20
    • Expedia gurgle
      Yeah that's exactly my point. Americans like to act as if it doesn't exist here, it quite clearly does if you look into it.
      Jan 20
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    Taiwan #1
    Jan 19 27
    • Twitch RbOv54
      @mldy20

      1. I didn't say there was a justification, I had only presented China's needs for doing so. I also didn't say that this situation was ideal, just that irregardless of what China does or what Tibet thinks, Tibet will be under someone's control. An independent Tibet is highly unlikely because either China or India will annex it. This is regardless of whether the Tibetan can support themselves or not.

      2. No. My dude. Their queen was held at gun point and forced to sign her rights away out of fear for her life. That ain't right. If you were a native Hawaiian (not a mainland American going there for tourism of military service), and you had learned that the mainland Americans has basically taken over your land and heritage and got a bunch of their own people to settle the land and interbreed with your people to slowly weed out your culture (basically the story of any indigenous people in America), you would be pist. There's a bunch of native Hawaiians trying to start a separatist movement today, but as there are more mainlanders now living in Hawaii, that vote will never pass. The only way they can get attention is by starting violent protests, at which time, they will be branded as terror activists and get taken care of by local authorities.

      3. There is no such things as "friends" in politics. There are only parties that you can benefit more from by staying as allies. And to your point about having no allies in the region, in close proximity, China is closely allied with Russia, Pakistan, Serbia, and North Korea. Why is your point about China having allies or not even relevant?

      4. Culture was extinguished? My dude, yes, there was the cultural revolution, yes it was probably net negative, but to imply that the revolution had somehow annihilated centuries of culture and history, makes absolutely no sense. Also, I fail to see where the point about the cultural revolution was trying to lead to, it just came out of left field and it didn't go anywhere as a poorly constructed strawman.

      Last stop calling it my culture. You have no idea who I am. I could be a an American who never set foot in China. But the fact that you are taking a personal attack on me makes it feel like you have an emotional interest in attacking me as if I had offended you. It leads me to believe that you either really like me or have a strong and unjustified anti China bias.
      Jan 20
    • OP
      Life in China is no different culturally than for the Chinese who are living outside of China.

      Same festivals, same idioms, same confucian values, LOTS of museums and archaeological sites.

      I think those that bring up the cultural revolution have never actually been to China.

      That was an event 50+ years ago and is considered to have been a bad thing by all including the CCP so many steps were taken to reverse it.
      Jan 20
    • New / Eng Mldy20
      @fffunnn
      In China, can you call your Mao a murderer of 30 million Chinese ancestors? because anyone can in USA for a fact. Yes or No?
      Jan 20
    • Uber / R&D jidao
      Taiwanese don't claim they're the real China not want anything to do with China. Real Taiwanese hate China, so let them alone.

      Besides I took us as example, but my point was, what's your definition of country, what do you need to be a country, as far as I know the barbarian who invaded the Roman empire to create France did not sign a treaty with the Romanian... Is France just a province of Italy?
      Jan 20
    • Twitch RbOv54
      Not sure who the "real Taiwanese people" refers to. Taiwan has 2 major parties, the kmt and the dpp. The kmt continues to hold the one China policy and its stance that it is the rightful governing party under the ROC constitution.

      The dpp is anti China, but recently, suffered a pretty big setback in the local elections to the kmt. We'll see how that impacts future elections and Taiwan stance on China.

      Beside the point... Who the hell are the real Taiwanese people? You can't claim that real Taiwan people don't want anything with China when that's the not how the people are voting in the polls, and when one of the two major parties continues to claim they are the real China.

      As for France, sorry, not familiar with French history. Can't help you there.
      Jan 20
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    • Expedia gurgle
      You just asserted that and gave no evidence.
      Jan 20
    • Expedia gurgle
      I am not justifying the Khmer Rogue or their actions or the actions of the past Chinese government. But the US government wasn't anti Khmer Rouge just look at the history. The US wanted them in power vs the Vietnamese backed government.
      Jan 20
    • Expedia gurgle
      And people like you grow up thinking the US has a nice foreign policy history. I didn't even know that the US as well supported the Khmer Rouge as a result of the Vietnamese beint enemies of the US. I mean God, Look at how Ron Paul was treated in the 2007 presidential debate when explaining blowback and how he was booed. The average American right now probably knows nothing about what's going on in Yemen.

      Huawei has tons and tons of patents and R&D and grew into a lucrative and important company. To just say everything is theft or whatever without bringing evidence or examples makes you look like a fool who doesn't know what he is talking about.

      As for your question, I will just leave an article talking this IP dispute here that sums up my views:
      https://www.aier.org/article/what-you-need-know-about-great-ip-dispute-between-us-and-china
      Jan 20
    • Expedia gurgle
      There was a civil lawsuit that ended already, we'll see what the new suit is about. Also my point about the company being built solely on "theft" alone still stands. That is bullshit. That there are some IP infringements here and there is not much of a testimony to the overall picture. If it's so easy to make a company by "stealing" ideas, you should do it.
      Jan 20
    • OP
      It's just pure ignorance from a real lack of knowledge of anything outside of US.
      Jan 20
  • New Ezos
    China is better because it steals America's intellectual property. Are you serious?
    Jan 19 10
    • New / Eng Mldy20
      Yea but USA doesn’t kill a person like that. Only China or third world country does it like nothing, do u think ur communist government values ur life as a human?
      Jan 20
    • Expedia gurgle
      Texas has had lots of executions but yes I agree drug trafficking isn't something worth executing people for.
      Jan 20
    • New / Eng Mldy20
      Did texas execute foreigners? You seriously need to check your example before blurting anything out.
      Jan 20
    • Expedia gurgle
      The law states you have to get executed for smuggling drugs into the country. I don't agree with laws like this but it's wrong to point it out as an anomaly. Staunch US allies like Saudi Arabia and Singapore have laws like that and yes both of them have executed plenty of foreigners for such.

      As for whether Texas has, yes it looks like it.
      https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/foreign-nationals-part-ii
      Jan 20
    • OP
      Just admit that you read a news article that told you to be outraged and you obliged.

      I have no mercy for a guy who tried to import half a tonne of meth into someone else's country.

      It's also admirable that China is trying to prevent the export of illegal drugs rather than just pursuing importation.
      Jan 20
  • Oracle westernCiv
    Gotta be a troll. No one can be this ignorant.
    Jan 19 1
  • Amazon 6 to go
    Jan 20 2
    • OP
      Squeegee guys are so annoying.
      Jan 20
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      Don’t post this they’ll ban Blind and then we can’t hear about how great China is
      Jan 22
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    • OP
      Says country with no means to recycle it's own waste.
      Jan 19
    • Microsoft PraizSatan
      its
      Jan 19
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    • OP
      How's "performance" testing working out for you genius?
      Jan 19
  • Reddit y34bas
    Forgot this one option: state level organized intellectual property theft and constant violation of all international trade agreements
    Jan 20 9
    • Expedia gurgle
      That story has been disputed by both Amazon and Apple and has been asked to be retracted. Almost all the sources are anonymous there as well.

      And just read the article I posted I was talking about WTO rulings, you know something you can actually measure.
      Jan 20
    • Expedia gurgle
      I am not denying that China doesn't have market access issues. I am in favor of the US and its allies dealing with China in a concerted and diplomatic fashion using the WTO to see where they fall short of the obligations.
      Jan 20
    • Expedia gurgle
      The type of criticisms you throw matter. A lot of the US China criticism are bullshit and a fair amount is legitimate. Altogether it's no reason to start a new Cold War like the current idiots in the administration are.
      Jan 20
    • Expedia gurgle
      Here's a quote that replies to what you say in essence:

      I think people here should read this to think about things in context:

      https://www.econlib.org/how-should-we-think-about-the-theft-of-intellectual-property/

      A good snippet:

      Here’s a question for those who think American industry is being devastated by Chinese IP theft. How would the US stock market react to a sudden agreement that ended the threat of trade war, at the cost of Trump achieving only minor concessions from the Chinese? Would stocks plunge in disappointment about us not doing anything about IP theft? I doubt it; I think stocks would rise on the news. Admittedly, the market test is not the only one that matters; there may be military considerations as well. But it’s worth thinking about when trying to evaluate plausible estimates of economic damage from IP theft.
      Jan 21
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      @Mldy20 LOL Expedia had you owned lol lmao
      Feb 10
  • Amazon 🇺🇸#1
    So your vote options are basically:
    1) Racist society formed from xenophobic nationalism
    2) Homophobic family values that turn humans into baby-making machines
    3) Ingrained belief in education that values test scores and only promotes corporal punishment and parental violence
    4) Communist government, censorship, dictatorship

    🤔🤔🤔
    Jan 20 2
    • OP
      BuzzFeed?
      Jan 20
    • Amazon 🇺🇸#1
      No I experienced this myself and that's why I escaped this Communist Regime and came to the great USA!
      Jan 20
  • China is better than America in
    - high-quality in-house concentration camps compared to off-shore lousy Guantanamo Bay.
    - unethical and blatant IP theft. Ordered a pair of Adidas EQTs via eBay without paying attention and turns out to be a fake one from the great copy city of Fujian.
    - stable iron-fisted leadership with citizens getting no chance to elect an orange buffoon or crooked Hillary.
    - high-speed internet free of free speech.
    Jan 20 0
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    • New / Eng Mldy20
      Why are you involving SK all of a sudden?
      Jan 20
    • Expedia gurgle
      Because it's an incident that is grossly overlooked in US history and it's a part of US history that is very comparable to Tiananmen. (Read the fine details, it is US history as well I wasn't bullshitting)
      Jan 20
    • New / Eng Mldy20
      Yea but one can talk freely about that incident anywhere while you can't even mention Tiananmen incident in China can you? Express your own opinion please? Don't worry this is USA ;)
      Jan 20
    • Expedia gurgle
      Yeah in that regard I am not going to dispute that, but I am more here to kind of simmer tensions down and to show that there aren't really many good actors in history.
      Jan 20
    • Expedia gurgle
      What are you talking about, I never denied it happened.
      Jan 20
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    Jan 20 0
  • SAP Chivo
    Are you Chinese? Otherwise why you are ass kissing them?
    Jan 20 0
  • Quora mDXn01
    打倒共匪还我江山
    Jan 28 6
    • Cisco / Other endofdays9
      You’re more right than you know. Continued use of the characters by China is probably the rest of the world’s key advantage. Pinyin was mostly scorned by traditionalists but would stop the crazy waste in the education system.
      Jan 28
    • Quora mDXn01
      My words just help blind get block in China.
      Jan 29
    • Quora mDXn01
      To Amazon, if u don't knoe this language, shut up! At least Chinese Character is two dimensions while your language is only one dimension.
      Jan 29
    • Amazon cjaP02
      The Chinese language the most useless language in the world and will continue to become even more useless
      Jan 29
    • Quora mDXn01
      To amazon, it is our business if it is useful or not. It is only up to China's power, not by your words.
      Jan 29
  • PayPal Bds12asd45
    OP Where are you located? China or US?
    Jan 20 5
    • OP
      You should ask Google or Apple as both have been proven to track user location without consent.

      I'm still waiting for any such evidence to be brought forward for the alleged compromise of Huawei devices.
      Jan 20
    • Applied Material VtKJ67
      Russian trolls are inspiring others now
      Jan 20
    • PayPal E-bola
      So Google and Apple know where OP is... But OP doesn't know where OP is?
      Jan 20
    • PayPal E-bola
      Which country do you currently live and work in? China or US?
      Jan 20
    • Applied Material VtKJ67
      Russia
      Jan 20
  • New / Eng hdgbee7
    it is indeed better. that’s why is a 10 year waiting list for americans and westerners in general to move to china
    Jan 20 4
    • Applied Material VtKJ67
      because of the quota size? lol. who would want to move there?
      Jan 20
    • New / Eng hdgbee7
      dude, what’s applied material? any connection with applied materials?
      Jan 20
    • Applied Material VtKJ67
      possibly
      Jan 20
    • Expedia gurgle
      China's not fully developed yet
      Jan 20
  • OpenTable Meliodas
    Most of the options are false statements. Killing girls and denying civil rights to gays are not admirable family values.
    Jan 20 0
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    They aren’t
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