Will you join the rat race for additional $200k?

GitHub VP-Eng
Apr 24 61 Comments

Caution: reading Blind posts impact your happiness and your life.

I was happy with my remote job, and thought I was making decent money. I live in a suburb area with a 4000 sqft house on a 1.5 acre land, 3 young kids, 2 dogs, and 1 horse. 2 hours away from beach and 2.5 hours away from a nice skii spot. But I only make 270k a year.

After knowing people can make half a million to a million on Blind, I started interviewing. I ended up with multiple offers, and the highest are Google and Facebook (G matched FB after negotiation). The TC is 470k (excluding sign-on). I told the recruiter I want to avoid Bay Area, and they are matching me to NewYork and Seattle teams. I will decide which company to join after knowing the teams. NY is probably not a good option for raising a big family.

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  • Microsoft leetworld
    I'd trade my 300k job for a horse. You got the life dude.
    Apr 24 0
  • Amazon qhUc80
    TC should include quality of life. You’re chasing a salary to live more poorly at a higher cost of living.
    Apr 24 0
  • Goldman Sachs ihf
    What the heck. With that life and 270K a year, I’d never embrace the rate race.
    Apr 24 0
  • Wow, I normally hardcore advocate for higher TC and FAANG, but in this case I’d say stay where you are.

    After taxes that 470k halves, and you’ll find it difficult to provide the same quality of life for yourself and your family. Plus, you work REMOTE dude, that means a lot less stress (no stupid ass open office environments). And FAANG would mean much higher pressure.

    I mean you’re living the life. Why would you change that?

    Congratulations on the offers. They won’t expire anytime soon — if you change your mind in a few years, the interview process will likely be minimal.
    Apr 24 1
    • GitHub VP-Eng
      OP
      Thank you for sharing your thoughts. Appreciate it.
      Apr 24
  • Oath / Mgmt Atinlay2
    Don’t let the blind multiplier fool you.
    Apr 24 8
    • Oath / Mgmt Atinlay2
      No they aren’t. Trust me. Also look above where I got 3 likes already
      Apr 24
    • Are you trolling me? 3 likes doesn’t mean shit. And you’re a dude on the internet, what do you mean trust me?

      Only facts matter and I know the high TCs to be true personally and from friends.

      (Plus check levels.fyi)
      Apr 24
    • Oath / Mgmt Atinlay2
      Oh, check another internet tool where people anonymously put their own numbers in as a source of truth? No
      Apr 24
    • Don’t you think at least some of those numbers would be accurate though? If the high TC numbers are false, you’d see a huge discrepancy within levels.fyi, which you really don’t see.
      Apr 24
    • Oath / Mgmt Atinlay2
      Some are probably right, most are not.
      Apr 24
  • BluVector sparked
    Join the rat race for a couple years then go back to the good life
    Apr 24 2
    • He’ll never go back until age 55. The rat race is a black hole.
      Apr 24
    • Uber too meta
      Probability of being ejected via black body radiation?
      Apr 24
  • Intel Kitten420
    Go for the TC, so that after a decade of slogging, you can go buy a nice house in the countryside, spend time with your kids, chill at the beach whenever you want - heck maybe even buy a horse for shits and giggles.
    Apr 24 2
    • Facebook gd5wv9
      By then his kids may be already in college or close to it.
      Apr 24
    • @fb the joke is that he has all of that now
      Apr 25
  • New Duh1
    Come to NYC - it’s so lively, you can be close to city within an hour commute , be in a large acre place for rent of 4-5K, or a cost of < 1 M$, it’s a new exposure to the city for your kids too.

    Do not go to Seattle it’s depressing.
    Apr 24 2
    • Going from remote to an hour commute each way sounds painful. Horse could enjoy Central Park if it survives the winter.
      Apr 24
    • Facebook / Mgmt
      engisquir

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      engisquirmore
      NYC you can have 1 minute commute.
      May 20
  • Salesforce HarcEndoff
    What are you going to do with the horse??!?
    Apr 24 1
    • Big Switch Networks yAOW18
      That is the real question
      Apr 25
  • Microsoft blankuname
    I dream of living a life like yours pretty much every single day.
    1. Traffic in big cities sucks, that’s partly the reason for my stress, driving in the rat race is stressful too.
    2. It’s hardly sunny in Seattle. If you got nice weather beach big house and a happy family, know that you’ll be trading that for rainy, gloomy days in Seattle and extremely expensive real estate, and just lakefronts no beaches.
    3. If TC is high, so are the expectations. If you can handle the pressure and not get stressed, great, otherwise this place can potentially depress you. And stress you out.

    If all above aren’t an issue, and you know how handle stress well in a crowded environment and take vacations often to visit California or some place- then it could work and extra money is always handy, especially when you got kids.
    Apr 24 1
    • GitHub VP-Eng
      OP
      I appreciate your reply.
      Apr 24
  • GitHub VP-Eng
    OP
    I thought I could only have 1 by law, so I didn’t have to specify the number....
    Apr 24 2
    • Smart
      Apr 24
    • Amazon dkdks
      but...how many do you really have?
      Apr 24
  • New wrab
    What is your net worth and age? Depending of how many assets you’ve accumulated so far, and how much time you have left in the workforce, it might make more (or less!) sense to accelerate that by working a few years at FAANG.

    But generally, unless you have very little saved up, I’d advise against. Your life sounds wonderful.
    Apr 25 1
    • GitHub VP-Eng
      OP
      It makes perfect sense. I don’t have enough saved and will probably stay in workforce for another 17-20 years (till youngest kid finish college) unless I get lucky for an IPO.
      Apr 25
  • F5 Networks / Eng
    WGQH01

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    Come to Seattle! Commute on the train is great, you can have all of that in the burbs here!
    Apr 24 4
    • F5 Networks / Eng
      WGQH01

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      Live out in maple valley or Bonney lake area, lots of land and space there but close to the train and it’s a 30 minute train ride into downtown Seattle. Total commute will be around an hour but half or more will be sitting on a train doing work. Plus you get the beautiful Pacific Northwest, great skiing at snoqualmie and crystal, beaches in the summer (just not fun to swim in) amazing area to live! That kind of TC could set you up nice here in Seattle too.
      Apr 24
    • Except you will spend 2+ hrs in commute each day which will come out of time with your kids
      Apr 24
    • F5 Networks / Eng
      WGQH01

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      2 hours total isn’t bad at all! You’re not going to find any place where you don’t have at least an hour (30 min each way) anywhere near a city
      Apr 24
    • Amazon TTTPPMM
      Sunny beach will very far
      Apr 24
  • Facebook / Eng
    fb2017

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    How many wives you have? I saw kids, dogs but no wife in your post.
    Apr 24 1
  • Microsoft leetworld
    Github is Microsoft so you have great benefits and infinite job security. Rest and vest. You aren't missing much by not being in the rat race.
    Apr 24 0
  • Facebook justFrens
    What's wrong with you? There's nothing that amount of money can buy you that is intrinsically more fulfilling than what you've got.
    Apr 24 0
  • Google / Eng
    चाचा चौधरी

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    What location? Also factor in the opportunity cost of not working at a FANG if you are in the early part of your career. If you are close to retirement though, then it doesn't matter much.
    Apr 24 0
  • Google / Mgmt Mananana
    Wow, would you mind sharing how you ended up at such a high paying remote job?

    Sounds like a dream life to me, stick with it!
    Apr 26 1
    • Microsoft leetworld
      Github hires mostly remote engineers.
      Apr 26
  • Microsoft EMoC46
    I don't know the answer to your question. I know that NYC is an amazing place but people tend to work very long hours there and commute about an hour each way by rail. It's totally fine for raising a family, some suburbs are roomy and horse friendly e. g. if you move to Long Island or Westchester. Seattle east side is beautiful. Many of our neighbors have horses and 1-5 acres. The weather is rainy but mild. It doesn't feel like a rat race, it feels easy - the best of all worlds.
    Apr 24 1
    • Facebook / Mgmt
      engisquir

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      engisquirmore
      This is nonsense. The whole point of NYC is that you can live close to work and commute on foot or by bike. Having 1 hour commute is Bay Area thing.
      May 20
  • Uber Uber Uber
    What did you decide?
    Apr 28 0