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May 5 93 Comments

Is it just me or is it way harder to find a job as a woman?

I see my female friends having a difficult time trying to find a job vs men finding it quickly and easily and always with better pay.


I’m not interviewing at fang companies mostly small startups or tech incubators for business roles

The inequality is real

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TOP 93 Comments
  • Intel jcjz44
    It's just you. It's much easier for women to get hired
    May 519
    • Microsoft gfba68
      Yeah, and men currently get hired for their genitals. That's the problem.
      May 5
    • Intel jcjz44
      See I have no intention of forcing my view . Take it or leave it. Peace.
      May 5
    • Microsoft gfba68
      Empirical fact counts as forcing your view these days? When did that happen? You come in here, state strongly state an opinion with no justification whatsoever and get pissy when people question it. Piss off.
      May 6
    • Intel jcjz44
      Exactly. People get pissy when they have no proof
      May 6
    • Microsoft gfba68
      which explains why you are so pissy
      May 6
    • Kaspersky Lab aye dais
      Intel, I didn’t not try to play gay card. I used it as an example of how slowly bias changes even after legislation changes. I just saw an article in newspaper about firing pregnant women in Amazon. My gay friend was fired two months ago from a reputable company in D.C. because his boss was uncomfortable about it. They paid him, of course to avoid lawsuit, but it doesn’t change the fact.

      Bias is still there, and it’s still there against gays, against women in traditionally men’s professions, against African Americans, against men in traditionally women’s professions.

      The thing is Intel went a long way to be progressive place to work. Transgender policies working in Intel are a dream for most transgender people in the country.

      And you’re judging what is going on in the country sitting in an ebony tower.
      May 6
    • Intel jcjz44
      I don't think it's right to include gays and transgender s in this discussion as it we're the same issue. I. Believe in equality and that is for all human beings . Be it woman or transgender etc. But I also believe in fairness that means if a person is talented and deserves a job or role he she should get it not someone who is second to that person but fits some kind of quota for a diversity metrics. Yes maybe being at Intel may make me a wrong person to talk about such issues. Let me give you an example. In India we have reservations for certain tribes which was initially intended to uplift the society but currently that same reservation is used by well to do families and folks who are not in that category suffer and are made to pursue their dreams abroad. Not a direct relation to the topic but something analogous.
      May 7
    • Kaspersky Lab aye dais
      I think you forget about equity. You can’t really think that opportunities are equally open for everyone when everyone had different starting points, and different level of support in the environment.
      If you compare two equally talented engineers graduated from Harvard and Indian Institute of Technology, American interviewer will always have bias towards Harvard graduate. And it would be nothing meritocratic about it, it would be just “well, he graduated from Harvard, it must be something about him...”.
      And that would be equal opportunity for both, but still lack of equity. I am not sure if that could be considered fair.
      May 8
    • ON Semiconductor OoooOOOoooO
      @jcjz44 "getting hired as a woman" does Intel has a role "woman" and looks to fill it?
      May 10
  • PayPal x ploy ted
    Given all the diversity initiatives it is way easier to find a job as a woman. Amazon and Google will hire you and you probably don’t have to interview.
    May 512
    • Cruise Automation sl1msh4dy
      This is the biggest bullshit ive ever heard lmao
      May 5
    • Oracle uu554ee
      Utter nonsense. As a woman you still need to be technically qualified to pass these interviews and get the offer.
      May 5
    • Intel jcjz44
      Well yeah that's a bit of exaggeration. But the bar required for clearing interviews is lowered significantly
      May 5
    • Oracle uu554ee
      I don't believe it. I am a woman the bar has never been lowered. If af all, I had to always work harder to prove myself.
      May 5
    • Intel jcjz44
      How do you know that?
      May 5
    • Facebook WJjF80
      I’ve been asked at Amazon to lower the hiring bar for a woman. Never for a man of any race or sexual orientation.
      May 5
    • Oracle uu554ee
      BS. I don't believe it.
      May 5
    • Intel jcjz44
      I am genuinely surprised people are delusional that lowering the bar doesn't exist. I guess ignorance is bliss
      May 5
    • ON Semiconductor OoooOOOoooO
      why be so shallow, say Amazon and Google will be chasing you and beg to accept their offers competing in TC :)
      May 10
    • ON Semiconductor OoooOOOoooO
      Facebook, that would be a clear discrimination case. The person who asked you to do so can be sued
      May 10
  • SpaceX ________
    Are you applying for following job positions?
    Because yes unfortunately inequality is real out there -

    Crane operator
    Blacksmith
    Infantry soldier
    Tree cutting
    Mining
    Construction
    Heavy vehicle operations
    May 53
    • Apple
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      May 5
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      🐐 🐐 🐐
      May 5
    • Kaspersky Lab aye dais
      What a bs. In sales men get offers over equally qualified women all the time.
      May 5
  • Expedia tier n!
    I thought tech companies give preference to females which should make it easier.
    May 56
    • Microsoft gfba68
      You thought wrong
      May 5
    • Expedia tier n!
      Maybe. Expedia jobs desciptions, for example, go through a word salad tosser until it becomes female friendly. Rejecting a female candidate in a loop requires some explaining and clear justification in my experience as well. These observations do not mean that every female gets the job but the path to success is well lubricated.
      May 5
    • Microsoft gfba68
      You have no idea what you're talking about
      May 5
    • Expedia tier n!
      You have nothing useful to say. Just social justice drive bys.
      May 5
    • Kaspersky Lab aye dais
      That's what companies declare, not what hiring managers do
      May 5
    • Microsoft gfba68
      You have nothing useful to say, which is why I don't bother responding to it. You are just making shit up.
      May 5
  • New / Engkill skill
    It's just you
    May 50
  • Amazon / ITamazonssie
    In it it is simpler for a woman to obtain a job..
    May 53
    • Intel babubhatt
      That’s why there are so many mostly-women tech companies
      May 5
    • Palo Alto Networks !💥
      I sincerely doubt that is the reason @babu
      May 5
    • Facebook gd5wv9
      My guess is the number of women in tech companies is correlated with number of women pursuing engineering related major in university. This needs to be fixed upstream.
      May 5
  • New / Otherhex€3@
    Men, on average will apply to jobs they are just over 60% qualified for whereas women tend to only apply when they feel they are at least 90% qualified. So first, they apply less for the same jobs as men starting them off at a disadvantage—both in terms of number of opportunities and interview practice. Second, and probably more importantly, if you’re of “child bearing age” (which is basically anything other than right out of college and up to 2-3 years post) there is more scrutiny meaning a higher bar to pass bc a woman is more risk.

    That said, I’m a woman and I’ve never been out of work for more than 4 weeks. But I’m basically “always interviewing” so I’ve never been caught off guard starting a job hunt from scratch
    May 53
    • Kaspersky Lab aye dais
      Men are also being hired when they are 75-80% match, and women are being hired when they are 95-100% match, so applying for more jobs will not help
      May 5
    • Facebook WJjF80
      @aye Dias that can’t be true. Not at Facebook but at other companies. I’ve been in so many debriefes where they tell me to lower the hiring bar just because it’s a woman. They say it doesn’t matter if she didn’t pass the coding interview. They also hold spots open just for women on teams. No one has ever told me to lower the bar for a man, or that a position is only available if the candidate is a man. Even minority men don’t get the chance, it’s just women.
      May 5
    • Kaspersky Lab aye dais
      And how many women did you hire?
      May 6
  • Microsoft hbdtyh
    Are you a woman with skills or just a woman? Stop blaming inequality and show what you are worth in the interviews. Self pity won’t get you far.

    You can do it! Keep at it
    May 55
    • Microsoft gfba68
      But inequality is not made up, so your assertion that OP should stop blaming inequality is condescending
      May 5
    • Scientific Games / EngHmLh12
      Who hurt you? @gfba68
      May 5
    • Microsoft gfba68
      nobody hurt me, who dropped you on your head as a child?
      May 5
    • Microsoft hbdtyh
      gfba68, what’s your point? Are you just making an observation? Inequality in general population doesn’t mean OP is affected. We cannot conclude that objectively from what OP has stated.
      May 8
    • Microsoft gfba68
      Who said anything about OP?
      May 8
  • Intel babubhatt
    I’d believe women have a harder time finding jobs in male-majority fields (on average). People tend to refer people like themselves, making it harder for women to break in sometimes.
    May 52
    • Facebook bl@ckmamba
      What a load of steaming crap!
      May 5
    • Intel babubhatt
      Thank you for your thoughtful response
      May 6
  • Intel INTC=$60
    Apply to Intel please. They prefer to hire woman over man.
    May 50
  • Facebook bl@ckmamba
    In tech it’s way easier for women to find jobs. Tech cos want more women
    May 53
    • Kaspersky Lab aye dais
      No, they don't. They say they want, but they don't act like that
      May 5
    • Facebook bl@ckmamba
      @aye dais What you said makes no sense
      May 5
    • Kaspersky Lab aye dais
      Why not? Many companies speakers are saying many good things about diversity, inclusion and belonging. But they can’t make their hiring managers act appropriately.
      May 6
  • Microsoft SGgY28
    I regularly takes interview. We do in panel of 4. 4 rounds. Right... We always choose B women over A men. Why? Well if I hire women it's bonus on my year end hike. It's +ve increase in % of women in tech job for company. Group manager gets A on inclusive culture. Every one is happy.
    May 51
    • New / Otherhex€3@
      Well then! I’m an A woman and just recently on the market! If you’d like a bump on your year ends gimme a DM... sounds like a breeze! (Also, I’m serious. DM me)
      May 6
  • Microsoft gfba68
    Yeah, on average it is probably a bit more difficult for women to find a job, still.
    May 50
  • New / Eng666 666
    Keep in mind that you would need job specific skills and some education to qualify for a job. Being a woman does not give you a job, if that is what you expected.
    May 52
    • Microsoft YuGiOh
      It's obviously from the post that is not what the op is talking about. There have been plenty of studies that show women tend to apply for jobs only when they fulfill 90%+ of the requirements vs men who tend to apply when they fulfill 50%+.
      This clearly speaks to how women DO NOT expect to be handed jobs just because they're women.
      May 5
    • New / Eng666 666
      Now I am confused. Is OP talking about sales jobs? Are stats you referred to about sales or jobs in general?
      Could be I made a mistake and assumed that OP is asking about skilled/professional positions, because I dont think you need more than a HS diploma for sales.
      May 5
  • New Dorky9
    When i was at Microsoft they would go out of the way, every single time to hire, keep and retain women. Hire Managers had a metric for how many women thy had on their teams. PIPing them for performance was impossible
    May 51
  • Amazon / Engzs225
    Yea, echoing what some comments above were saying. I was under the impression that, all things equal, the woman will get the job over the man due to "diversity points"
    May 54
    • Microsoft gfba68
      nope
      May 5
    • Amazon / Engzs225
      @gfba68 could you elaborate please? It appears you feel strongly about this topic judging by your replies to a number of the other comments. However, most of your comments simply deny without a concrete reason or default to questioning the gender identity of the claimer, which doesn't make for a compelling case. It also seems like the view I presented is held by the majority.

      Not looking to argue about who's right or wrong. Just curious to hear out your side in more detail.
      May 5
    • Oracle Dplaner
      gfba68 is probably a HM at Microsoft.
      May 5
    • Microsoft gfba68
      You are making a positive claim. You have not presented evidence to support it. Why are you trying to push the burden of proof on me? That is dishonest.
      May 5
  • PagerDuty QhwD03
    Companies are hungry for diversity candidates. Women with skills should have no issues getting hired in the current market and should negotiate the comp accordingly.
    May 53
    • Microsoft gfba68
      Are you a woman?
      May 5
    • PagerDuty QhwD03
      Irrelevant.
      May 5
    • Microsoft gfba68
      it is directly relevant. Are you a woman?
      May 5
  • StubHub FreeMasons
    Job search is strenuous process, don’t tell me you getting rejects from 3 or so companies and saying job search is hard for women
    May 51
    • Scientific Games / EngHmLh12
      👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
      May 5
  • ServiceNow / Eng༼つ ◕_◕ ༽つ
    I can only compare using myself and people I know, but I don’t think it felt harder to get interviews or job offers as a woman.
    May 50
  • Deloitte bug17
    It’s just you.
    May 50
  • New / Eng
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    A ton more info is needed. What's her role? Skill set? Years of experience? Is she networking? Part of an online community to support women, etc? Maybe it's still easier for men to find jobs, but there are so many communities and programs now, to help women. Their members usually get hired faster and find tons of new opportunities. From my experience most companies will prefer to hire a woman over a guy given similar skills and experience to get that diversity badge
    May 50
  • New / Eng
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    Listened to a female brag about her all-female team and stress she only hires women. Somehow in the same breath she managed to claim that diversity in engineering teams makes them great!... as long as that diversity doesn’t include men lol 🤷‍♂️😂
    May 72
    • Microsoft hbdtyh
      Isn’t that illegal? Hiring only women?
      May 8
    • New / Eng
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      Not in San Francisco I guess
      May 8
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    What kind of job are you looking for, and are you qualified for the jobs you’re interviewing for? It could be you’re just not a great candidate or could use some interview coaching
    May 60

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