This sounds stupid imo it's more expensive to hire a H1B employee isn't it?
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- Tesla LEETCODERI might be ignorant but when they keep saying "Companies fire Americans and replace them with H1Bs". What companies are they referring to?
This sounds stupid imo it's more expensive to hire a H1B employee isn't it?
- Logitech zoppsterHiring someone on an H1B is just a total drag and tbh I have no idea why an employer would ever do it unless they really want that candidate (ie can’t find an American with same qualifications).
You got to do the paperwork which you can only do once a year in April, hire lawyers and then not know for months if your hire beat the bad odds and will start in 6 months time.
Why as a business would you plan around that if you can hire an American right now? Most likely even save on international relo cost?
I think it’s a sad testament to the American pool of candidates as a whole that even with these awful conditions, companies still opt for trying their luck with H1Bs.
- Its a nexus mafia at work here.
My post above here posted again here
LEETCODER stop being pretentious. Every Indian H1B knows the fact that we are replacing local engineers here. Indian manager and HR recruiters only push forward candidacies of Indian H1Bs. They give a rats ass about spending companies $10K on sponsorship.
If companies start implementing incentive of giving $1K to hiring managers to hire locals, believe me they will not hire many H1Bs.
I am in Bay Area our company works with dozens of US based multinationals where Indian engineers are placed. 100% of our clients who are hiring managers, HR, recruiters etc are Indians. We pay them gifts (really expensive ones) for most placements.Aug 21, 2018 2
- In my company we only hire Indians as we believe that someone on H1B will work harder than locals, will not challenge the status quo. Its sad but that’s the way things are currently.
- I've seen that many times at several companies - usually perpetrated by a manager that came on a visa themselves. They have low confidence in their own abilities to get their teams to perform without the threat of losing legal status. It's pathetic and shows they are not qualified to lead.
- BlackBerry / Other BaronCohenmoreIt sounds like the USCIS Director is blaming H1-B visa holders. They have done nothing. The labor laws and the greed of American companies are to blame.
How about we deal with more important issues such as:
1. Making it harder for employers to abuse Performance Improvement Plans
2. Improving legal protections for older workers (40+)
3. Prohibiting companies from demanding NDAs (including non-disparagement) in return for severance
- That is probably fine on surface but it’s one of those well intentioned things that can never be implemented.
The tough thing is determining if a H1B is a direct replacement for an American. There’s plenty of legit cases where tech companies lay off LEs and continue to hire both Americans and H1Bs in the same team / role so how do you decide which ones are valid and which ones aren’t?
- Usually the trick is to hire a tech labor firm, get existing workers to train them, then layoff locals. Often the locals don't have cs degrees so they are very vulnerable to being unemployed longer and this kind of transition usually occurs outside of major tech hubs, so the tech jobs are more scarce.
- Zoppster... There is a lot of misinformation in your comment. Not all H1B hires relocate internationally. Majority of the H1b hires are already in US. They just switch employers and their paper work can be filed any time of the year. A H1B hire costs only 4500 in government fees for 3 years. Add attorney fees that might be another 1000 or so. If the application is filed in premium, there is an additional fee of 1250. A H1b costs about 2500 a year.
Most of the new H1B applications are filed by offshore companies trying to send their cheaper workforce here. Since it is an internal move the candidates cannot negotiate for a better salary. These companies pay the minimum wage for h1 also known as LCA salary. They are not breaking rules here. In most cases, these employees are already working for an outsourced project. Even if it takes 6 months for them to start, the company is not losing anything.
The new H1B applications filed by the US companies are mostly for the fresh grads that are already working for them on an OPT. Even though their application can be filed only once a year, they are already working for the company. They won't wait for 6 months to start and they are not relocating internationally.
- Zoppster...L1 was the path abused for decades. Now USCIS started scrutinizing L1 and not many L1s are filed except for the big US companies like Amazon and Microsoft. All the outsourcing companies like TCS, CTS, Infosys etc. Stopped (or atleast downsized) applying for L1 after a huge settlement (up wards of 25 million) with USCIS.
As per your comment "i don't think most ne H1Bs...." I meant the new H1b applications filed by the US companies... Not all companies.
The current unemployment rate across the country is ~4%. I am not sure of what it is in tech industry or STEM. unless you have some stats to prove h1b are replacing Americans leaving them unemployed...I won't agree to it.
You should also consider not many companies would want to hire older people in their 40's or 50's in non executive roles. Their unemployment may or may not be because of H1b program but because of their less appealing age group in the tech industry.
- Reddyswami... You might be working with the shitty networks like you've mentioned. I've been in the outsourcing, independent consultant, FTE and at Amazon now. In the 20+ interviews i attended over the past decade, I've never come across a scumbag like you've mentioned who was even remotely regionalist or racist. You are not even ashamed of your unethical illegal practices.
However, I've recently heard of a friend who was offered a position for sexual favors. My friend did not take it though.
- ReddySwami... Knowing about it and getting involved in a crime are entirely different.
By the way, i brought down 5 fraudulent consultencies like yours when I had the paper trail as proof against them. I am NOT part of your filth. I'd do it again and again if I have the chance. I WONT stand by and watch in silence while someone like you exploit both the government and the fellow humans.
You do not want to cross paths with me. You wouldn't go home with all your teeth intact.
- One should actually read transcript of his interview and not Toilet Of India (TOI). He didn’t say anything against H1B and just presented his concerns.. I’m an immigrant.
- New / Other Srshah7moreI saw the whole video. The guy is just presenting his concerns. If you see the video he actually say around 29mins that he is all “For” US graduated foreign students to secure US employment and H1B visa.
He says USCIS as such cannot do anything until congress takes action to help US degree holding foreign students.
- As much shit Indians get, you can’t really replace them they work their asses off. I mean they don’t even shower showing how dedicated they are to work.
- Also you can’t replace all Indians with ‘Americans’, Americans are too stupid just look at who they voted for their president.
- Amazon / Eng tuioFormer H1B visa holder here from Europe, now a green card holder. Been here 3 years. My team I manage has directly earned Amazon profits of ~700 million. Not bad for a former H1B holder but if they hired an American I'm sure it would be in the billions and not a measly ~700 million.