California job seekers. Friendly reminder that AB 168 went into effect this year. While this law is famously discussed for protecting your right to not disclose your salary history to recruiters and/or possible employers, it also states the following: “(c) An employer, upon reasonable request, shall provide the pay scale for a position to an applicant applying for employment.” That’s right. If you are an applicant for a role, they MUST disclose the pay range for the position, but only IF you ask! Don’t let them give you “its confidential” or “it depends on your level” bullshit. Curious to hear about people’s experiences here in the comments. Get that money fair and square, people!
Wait. So you're saying they can give us the TC range? Or just base?
When to discuss this? During the recruiter call? After the offer?
"Applicant" ...so the language seems to suggest that you don't need an offer
You may ask at any point during the application process. The law does not go into TC vs base. It merely says “pay scale”. Regardless, you have a right to more information than you did in 2017. I am betting these big companies have been trained to “sneak around” to give you less information. Which is why I am curious to hear about peoples experiences. Google away folks! I’m learning too!
Pay scale is base, this is interesting
IME, just base - I coincidentally just posted a question that is related to this
Confirming that Google gave me the range for both base and bonus but not RSUs right after initial recruiter call when I asked for it. This was before any official interview took place. Final offer was in the exact range they provided. I did not negotiate as I didn't have other offers.
Sure but this is blind, who the heck wants to be paid in band lol. Out of band or bust.
What? No you don’t, HeyOh. I don’t know the L3 band, but if I get $300k TC I don’t need to confirm it’s out of band.
Good for you.
http://levels.fyi is helpful too
Both FAANGs and startups in CA have refused to provide this information in my recent experience (say it depends on individual and what they bring), is it a violation of the law?
Thanks for the information...very useful!