apple vs alipay vs lyft

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Sep 30 30 Comments

apple offer (IC 4): 200k base, 10% bonus, 500k rsu/4, 80k signon, 100k rsu yearly refresh/4 (average performer)
alipay (p7): 200k base, 560k rsu/4, no signon, 30% bonus, plan to IPO next year
lyft (high L4): 170k base, 560k rsu/4, 50k signon, no bonus

software engineer
8 year of experience

Would like to hear your guys' opinion on which company to join.

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  • HERE / R&D HydroFlak
    Apple: top few most valuable companies in the world. Amazing products. Doing interesting work in several fields. Could stop selling product for years and still be solvent.

    Alipay: rapid growth, large but niche market. Chinese owned. Pre IPO so your options are worthless. About ready to ipo so probably really diluted too.

    Lyft: lower comp, smaller and niche market. Dependent on gig workers to provide labor. Long term outlook?

    Really depends on what you want, but unless one of the others really interests you for some reason, go with Apple for a while. Probably better comp, looks great on resume.
    Sep 30 0
  • Bloomberg gGAL37
    I‘d say Apple over Lyft. The value of your Lyft and Apple RSUs 3 years down the line could easily be the same. But you also need to consider what kind of work culture you prefer.
    Sep 30 0
  • Cisco lady-dev
    Yoe? Role?
    Sep 30 1
    • PayPal YFnY83
      OP
      added. 8 year of experience. software engineer
      Sep 30
  • Uber / Eng meowimacat
    Are chinese companies like alipay considered prestigious in US?
    Sep 30 3
  • Alibaba Group / HR
    asjw

    Alibaba Group HR

    BIO
    Why should anyone put a bio on blind? Who is your product guy?
    asjwmore
    It's a no brainer, apple
    Oct 1 0
  • New pKHA68
    Time to negotiate with Apple
    Sep 30 0
  • Expedia Group / Eng iwant300ks
    Don't go zhi fu bao
    Sep 30 0
  • Ripple lsiefsja
    Chinese companies generally have lesser WLB, and the expectation is for you to travel to China every now and then to touch base with the HQ.

    I'm curious how the RSU (SERs) for Alipay is calculated. Is that the future value or current value?
    Oct 1 5
    • PayPal sGDn14
      Current value
      Oct 3
    • Ripple lsiefsja
      That is pretty generous for P7 role
      Oct 3
    • PayPal sGDn14
      Why? Do you mean I should get p8?
      Oct 3
    • Ripple lsiefsja
      It's unlikely you will get P8 with 8 YoE.
      But if you are bought into Ali's vision and don't mind the culture, what they offering you is quite good.
      Oct 3
    • PayPal sGDn14
      But it is paper money, should they offer double rsu of public company?
      Oct 3
  • PayPal 2211NFst
    Level at PayPal? T25?
    Oct 1 1
    • PayPal tmro
      Apple offer , Do you get any annual refreshers or that is it for next few years?
      Oct 2
  • PayPal tmro
    Apple offer , Do you get any annual refreshers or that is it for next few years?
    Oct 1 1
    • PayPal sGDn14
      Annual refresh will be additional
      Oct 3
  • Alibaba Group / HR
    asjw

    Alibaba Group HR

    BIO
    Why should anyone put a bio on blind? Who is your product guy?
    asjwmore
    Is lyft offer a senior title?
    Sep 30 1
    • PayPal YFnY83
      OP
      yes. both Apple and Lyft are senior title
      Oct 1
  • Bloomberg gGAL37
    Not exactly relevant but, yoe?
    Sep 30 1
    • PayPal YFnY83
      OP
      8 year of experience
      Sep 30
  • Congrats on the offers! If Apple’s is on the Apple Pay team go with that one.
    Oct 2 0
  • Marqeta Ppppasd
    Are these all payments teams?
    Oct 1 0
  • PayPal / Eng
    Ohgu

    PayPal Eng

    PRE
    Intel Corporation
    Ohgumore
    What’s your level at Paypal ?
    Oct 1 0
  • Alibaba Group / HR
    asjw

    Alibaba Group HR

    BIO
    Why should anyone put a bio on blind? Who is your product guy?
    asjwmore
    Where is your alipay office?
    Sep 30 0
  • Cisco unit-test
    Depends on what you want. Do you want to be in sf or South Bay? Do you want to do a startup where you will have to work harder but you will learn more or a big company like Apple?
    Sep 30 0

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