time to find a new industry. observations: 1) google and fb are so afraid of the outside and improving their diversity metrics that they have now instituted quotas for hiring only female candidates. 2) i recently interviewed a fb product manager candidate that should not have been hired but was hired anyway due to her being a female 3) teams actively discriminate against male candidates for engineering and product roles these days – i talked to a friend who is an amazing pm at google, he wanted to transfer to a team with an open pm headcount but was denied because the team was looking at only female candidates... what the fuck??? 4) vc firms hiring opportunists and SJW activists from twitter to try to stay on the good graces of the god damn feminists of twitter 5) startups actively recruiting only female candidates to try to please the activists of twitter 6) google recently hired a head of diversity from intel who has the worst fucking ideas including quota system for diverse candidates 7) seems like the easiest place companies have found to add diversity is in non technical product management roles thus ruining the entire fucking field with absolute garbage people who have no business being a product manager. so much more. add your experience here. is this happening at your company too?
But meritocracy was never a real thing anyway.
it sure was. it was fucking hard to get a job at google and fb before. trust me i joined google in 2005 and fb in 2009. very difficult jobs to get in both eras. we rejected 99% of the candidates.
Even those from Stanford/Harvard? Something tells me you always found a place for those people.
I find that hard to believe. I have had Google people casually admit (while drunk) that they lower the bar for Stanford and raise the bar for no-name places.
That's sad but at any given time there are at least 10 different googlers submitting their feedback for one person. Someone wouldn't get hired because one person lowered the bar
Meritocracy was bullshit to start with, that's why we have this problem now
I remember at my previous company where we hired a person just because female. This was back in 2012 and all her interviews were bad. My manager was given a choice where he has to fill the headcount or the head count won't be available for next year or so due to some company wide actions. He picked her and it was so bad for the two years until she was fired due to not able to do work as required. We all had to pick up her work up and it was miserable in the end. Second incident just happened last year. layoff happened at my previous company and a co worker of mine who was on the verge of being laid off off was hired into a software role in a different group and he doesn't even know anything about programming. He told the manager he doesn't do programming and the manager said I need you to make my numbers look good otherwise I have bunch of indian and Asian resumes which I can't hire as they don't help with diversity in his team.
Similar thing happened in my team. Its frustrating to pick up the load of these incompetent diversity hires.
Microsoft too. At my cafeteria, I have seen 1 white male, 1 east asian male, 2 black males, and 40 females. I think that's fine though. Also, meritocracy never existed, not in its pure form anyway. No reason to be outraged, nothing entitles you to anything in this world.
I want to work at this amazing office!
The only people these diversity quotas hurt are mediocre candidates from the majority demographic (white or male usually). If someone can prove they've got skills, any decent hiring manager will make an exception to the quota. The shift toward diversity just means you have to work a little harder to show what you can do. Don't disagree that it's caused some questionable hires, but that's collateral as far as I'm concerned. If a few people get jobs they shouldn't have so that the industry is more accessible, I don't think that's the worst thing in the world. The discussion around it gets pretty ridiculous sometimes, but i don't believe there's a strong case to be made against diversity in principle.
No one is against diversity. People are against forced diversity via affirmative action. There are many strong arguments against affirmative action.
"If someone can prove they've got skills, any decent hiring manager will make an exception to the quota." That's not true when the manager is also a questionable hire. And many companies have hiring committees to make the decision.
Let me guess, most people in here complaining are white middle aged males? Not saying you are wrong in your complaint, it's just that times are changing and the rest of humanity is getting a shot at privilege so shut up or help change things. Yes there will be a few underserving minorities here and there but so what? How many white males are in positions today simply because they are white males? Times are changing.
"You're not wrong but shut up and take the injustice because of white privilege." Go F Yourself.
> How many white males are in positions today simply because they are white males? Is this really how you think the world works?
meritocracy was never a thing, but you trying to connect it with diversity is a total bs.
If only all the incompetent white dudes I've worked for could sully the status quo the way a few sub par any one else's (women, blacks etc) can destroy goodwill towards their entire huge umbrella of people.
Fixing the Women in tech problem shouldn't be able filling quotas. At the same time, isn't it ironic that within hiring females they lean towards non majority races like Asian and white?
No, it's not. You should look up what irony is.