https://mobile.twitter.com/TempePolice/status/976585098542833664?police-release-video-of-fatal-uber-autonomous-car-collision&tfw_site=technology Wtf Uber. You cannot detect a simple moving object. Also there was no attempt to brake. It was travelling at 40mph when the collision happened. I guess this is what happens when you steal code and try to release it without testing and do a shit job overall. I hope Uber get sued to hell and is mired in litigations forever.
Uber self driving tech comes out looking like a joke here
This is how you know we didn't steal Google tech
I am really sorry a life is lost but let’s not get cocky on creating software without bugs. But having a driver doesn’t mean he will jus DJ for the autonomous car. Until things are mainstream we might definitely need at least an average attentive human driver to take action
Imo - self driving cars on public roads isn’t like shipping a new startup app. You don’t get to just have bugs and say oops. Yes - all software has bugs - but this looks indicative of a rushed development process because Uber is acting like an immature company. Boeing wouldn’t get to put out buggy autopilots that crashed a plane and say “oops, it’s a bug”. Uber needs to either mature its code quality control and testing or get off public roads. This was a basic case.
Not saying it’s okay to ship buggy software. But don’t want to pretend as if there can’t be bugs. I am glad Boeing is doing the right thing to make things safer
Did they check for DUI? 😜
Yes, passerby and backup driver were both tested and both passed.
Did the car have its fluids checked for alcohol? Did they check the windshield wash?
A human driver would have hit the pedestrian. A self-driving vehicle with Lidar and other sensing technologies should have been able to avoid. The pedestrian only appears to notice the car at the last minute. How do you factor human decision making (especially bad ones) into the design specs.
The passenger was focussing on phone expecting the software to take care of it. If there was no software the driver would have been alert and able to see the old lady from a distance with lights onn
That’s not a passenger. That’s the backup driver whose job is exactly to deal with this kind of scenario when software/hardware fails in testing.
Uber clearly not at fault here, who the hell thinks jaywalking a high speed road in the middle of the night is a good idea. We can talk about improving sensors to avoid this, but it’s a hard problem. A human would’ve likely hit his person
“We need self driving cars because they’re safer than humans - they can look everywhere at once and have constant situational awareness.” *Self driving car hits someone in a basic use case for why they should be better than humans* “A human would have hit them too, it’s not the self driving cars fault.” Seriously, so many engineers in SV are tripping over themselves to find ways to not criticize Uber for putting bad tech on the road and potentially setting back self driving adoption by years.
The technology is never going to be perfect, people need to realize this and look at the statistics and individual cases. In this case the pedestrian is at fault, Uber’s track record up to this point is likely better than the 99th percentile of humans so we are already operating safer than humans
So Tesla FSD with camera only is the scam of the decade
After viewing the video it looks like Uber really should have avoided this, what am I missing? Uber is using LIDAR here, it should have detected the person when they started crossing the road regardless of the fact that it was dark out. It’s not like the person just randomly stepped off of the curb into the car - they had to cross the left lane first, during which they should have been detected and the car should have braked. I’m not sure if a more attentive human driver would have prevented this, it’s really not clear from the video. But the automated system definitely should have. IMO the shit would really hit the fan if Uber released all the sensor data that it had available here, rather than a dark video that has little relevance.
Human driver would’ve probably done the same thing
I think a human would’ve broke when you see the persons feet. There was definitely time to break and if she wasn’t in a self driving car she would’ve reacted differently
Isn’t one of the biggest value arguments for self driving cars that they perform better than humans....? But then when people don’t want to admit Uber’s self diving tech is apparently shit they drop back to “a human would have fucked up too”. Based on the video and the fact that the human eye can see in the dark better than that camera I think a human would have at least started braking, which could have been the difference - so I don’t even buy your premise.