LinkedIn is continuing to hire in India pretty heavily across all levels (SWE-Pstaff+) in spite of the layoffs. Cost of talent is not cheap there, but higher ups have been unwilling to hire much in the US for the last 1.5 years so this is a compromise. The site continues to grow but scaling out is always so overly complicated from underinvestment in infra leading to half baked bandaid solutions. Leadershipās solution is to continue scaling out the on prem / in house infra by using US talent to build green field tech and deprecate the old garbage to India. Azure migration was messed up so badly that MSFT had to pull the plug; Now this is the only path forward. The infra is in a very bad state these days and itās a cut throat culture of reducing costs, tight deadlines, and micromanaging. The entire company had to shift so many resources across all areas for DMA because the tech debt makes it difficult to comply with regulations (see how we scuffed GDPR and received a nice half a billion fine) Donāt get me started on how much effort was put into genAI. Very little value provided to end users given the amount of investment. Leadership waves these infra projects around to present to industry like we are innovators. Lol at Yaās presentation at the Ray conference. What is the reward for a 6 month cadence performance cycle with meta style stack ranking (10% pip)? No refreshers or raises even for exceeds. If you were lucky enough to get a raise, it was literally š„. (We are talking about 50k / 4 years for exceeds). The severance package is a mere 10 weeks of pay, only a few weeks more than the required amount for WARN. /rant TC: 350 #linkedin #layoffs #rif #microsoft #incompetence #peterprinciple #leadership #severance #layoff
When did LinkedIn violate gdpr?
You should be able see some articles from this past June2023 if you google
This won't amount to much. 50M warning will be the final settlement. Check what happened to meta.
Indian based engineers who often work harder and have less options in life, deserve more high end job opportunities. It sucks that some US employees got laid off, but it's not a bad thing that more Indians can now join a big tech.
They are not mutually exclusive. LinkedIn prints money still
ābut it's not a bad thing that more Indians can now join a big tech.ā Why should we non-indians feel good about this?
If they are unable to migrate the azure, the entire tech leadership needs to be fired. This is just being terrible Hire some fixers who know how to fix fuck ups and ask them to lead the ship.
Iāll add a little bit context on the fuck up. Leadership had the wonderful idea of ālift and shiftā. a revolutionary idea to not adopt cloud primitives and instead bring our existing on prem architecture to azure with minimal changes. I have a data background, so let me use a data example. We operate exabyte scale Hadoop clusters (because incompetence). And the idea is for us to just migrate all this data and serve it from Azure. Not only is Azure significantly worse in performance compared to AWS, but this is just unreasonable design for the cloud. The COGs and performance from just copy pasting Hadoop architecture make so little sense. Hereās another question: why does LinkedIn really need that much data? The duplication of data is a serious problem that isnāt really addressed around here. Thereās so little accountability for the amount of data products team produce. Thereās no meta style quota system asking for data producers to find ways to reduce their footprint (noticing a trend of leadership failure?)
Please demand for more remote work so that more jobs can be sent over to India.
Why is that a bad thing? Instead of people having to move?
It's a bad thing for those in the US
Sounds like a page out of googleās book (thatās what they just did to Android TV), isnāt?
Wow that's sounding pretty bad. And I thought we had problems. You have crappy leaders from one organization trying to integrate with another crappy org(azure) at the barrel of the gun. No one wants to use the best solution. Azure always struck me as a half baked solution requiring getting customers by force. Things are bad here but not that bad.
Let me be clear, Azure dropped the ball too. Azure in its current state is not a world class cloud provider. When large scale companies are doing multi cloud, theyāre typically doing some combo of AWS and GCP because of cost / performance. I canāt recall any companies who try this with azure. Those poor azure engineers are over worked and under funded. It hardly made sense for them to onboard a low margin customer like LinkedIn, so the migration was always handled as a low priority and the migration was always blocked on trying to scale up to the needs of this lift and shift architecture.
I see. Here we have a pretty heavy engineer focused environment. Like we are constantly dedicated to design docs, code quality, testing, tooling and scale. For scaling we set the bar higher than our customers then we are judged based on that bar. Many find that boring but I think it's preferable to the more exciting cases like yours. But it wasn't like we just jumped into cloud over night.
India talent is just not there š NRI is already spotty enougj
Time to go back home now I guess (:
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Have some compassion. These are real people being affected, some will have their whole lives upended. Rockstar engineers were not spared and many are on visas.