CompensationDec 11, 2019
Applefunz

1.5 m houses

How can people afford 1.5 m houses in the bay area? And we are talking average houses with 3-4 bedrooms and not much lot here. What is the average TC of these folks?

Oracle offer123 Dec 11, 2019

300k

Apple funz OP Dec 11, 2019

How does that make sense?

Amazon de5i Dec 11, 2019

It’s roughly $7500/mo mortgage payment. Banks will approve you if your mortgage is roughly 1/3 of your gross income. 7500x12x3=270K. Totally doable for family of professionals. Even though it’s sort of insane to pay this much for such crappy houses.

Oracle raneh Dec 11, 2019

Agreed

Apple funz OP Dec 11, 2019

Its not matter of getting loan from bank but the economics doesn’t make sense

LinkedIn vfgh215 Dec 11, 2019

475k for dual income family. We were paying more in rent before then our mortgage payment now 🤷🏻‍♂️

Panasonic USA berelaxed Dec 11, 2019

How much is the house price and mortgage now? I wonder how it is less than rent.

Reflektive hifiwifi Dec 11, 2019

Rent is much lower than mortgage payment, especially for some larger houses, where the demand may be lower than single bedroom options. My rent is half the monthly payment if I had bought it. The economics are questionable given how much lower rent is vs monthly mortgage.

Facebook public2 Dec 11, 2019

Easily. That's like ~7k a month. A few years experience plus a 300k down payment.

Qualcomm libertarin Dec 11, 2019

There's thousands of other people making 300k in the Bay area. That's why houses are only on the market for a few days. There's even husband and wife teams making 500k or 600k a year

Hitachi Vantara vataran Dec 11, 2019

It doesn't make much economic sense. May be if you expect the house prices to double in next 3-4 years.

Palo Alto Networks Clowns Dec 11, 2019

@vataran - you need to redo your math. Rent for house is at least 5k/month. 7500 mortgage is not all interest. There is at least 2000 in principal + you have tax deduction. Finally, and increase of 50k/year in price appreciation (3.5%) represent 4000/month. So, yes price appreciation is part of the equation, but a mere 3% / year would make it worth it.

Hitachi Vantara vataran Dec 11, 2019

You're forgetting property taxes, on-going maintenance, time value of money and depreciation. The principal will vary significantly during the life of a loan so not the right comparison. Don't feel bad, most people forget to incorporate those in their calculations.

Facebook alexkch Dec 11, 2019

730k

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CdSo48 Dec 12, 2019

This entire post is everything wrong with sf now.

Microsoft Isabel_03 Dec 20, 2019

Except there is no human feces in this post, or corrupt and incompetent politicians demanding more of your money to deal with the human feces problem.

Etsy zuVg76 Dec 12, 2019

It only works out with the mortgage tax deduction along with limited supply, excess demand. A 3-4 bedroom in NYC will be a lot more than 1.5m so sometimes it's about adjusting expectations. Get a roommate, smaller home etc

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FoeX55 Dec 12, 2019

My guess is that many are sitting on equity when, not long ago, the houses were much less.